PPGS - The Alternative Energy Golf Swing

Thu, 03/29/2012 - 20:44 -- Don Trahan

Today, Dave Seeman and I are going to discuss some more things we've noticed at our Florida Golf Schools. Being one day golf schools, we're seeing a lot of different players out here including some older gentlemen. One similarity between the older golfers was their swing speed.

The great thing about the Peak Performance Golf Swing is that it's a limited turn swing. This means that you gain the speed by swinging your arms faster, not by rotating your body more, which is great for older golfers who have lost some swing speed over the years. I like to call it the alternative energy golf swing because even those with bad backs and injuries can hit the ball far and straight using this swing. But, I also kept repeating to our students that in order to get the ball going, they've got to setup and HIT IT! Some had a faster backswing than forward swing, which is not the right recipe for hitting good shots. You don't hit the ball with your backswing, you hit it with the forward upswing and it must be accelerating through impact.

Alignment was another key issue that we discussed with the students and even Dave Seeman claimed to learn something from today's school. Check out the video to see what Dave's revelation was and what he considers some of the most important factors in making a good Peak Performance Golf Swing.

Keep it vertical,

The Surge!
Don Trahan
PGA Master Professional

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Submitted by Gencomm (not verified) on

I have a question. I have noticed that if i set up with my weight on my left side i seem to be more accurate and more in control. I try like heck to load on my right side but seem to pull the ball more and really lose it. So , i guess my question is, is it ok to load my weight more towards center/ forward, thanks.

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Rob F, thanks for the response and suggestions, i will give it a try.

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Submitted by MikefromKy Go B... (not verified) on

Went to the range Thursday had productive session with every club in my bag except the driver. I can't hit for nothing right now its became a mental thing now took about 10   swings and put it away maybe next week. 
Have our first tournaments this weekend Sat. and Sun. took the driver out of my bag for the weekend and put my LW back in going to hit 3w off the tee. Hopefully it will be dry tomorrow so I can get some extra roll should not be a issue unless there a bunch of long par 4's over 400 yards. 

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Submitted by Robert F (not verified) on

Yeah, it's definitely a good idea in practice to give ourselves permission on a few balls to really take a rip at it. You're right that your body won't learn how to control greater swing speeds until you actually try to swing it faster. I certainly let myself step up and rip a few every time I'm at the range, before I pack it up for the day. (Though, if I catch one of those really hard swings particularly well, I'll stop right there and give the balls I have left to whoever's close by at the range--the advantage of a monthly range pass rather than buying by the bucket.)

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Submitted by Efvaihinger (not verified) on

Good day
Tampa Florida resident.
1. I would like to purchase the alignment "H" Mr. Don uses. Name ?Brand?Model?
2 The Gainsville instructors name is Tom Lineberger?

Thanks
Eric

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

 Good luck in your tournament!!

I think the rain is supposed to be hit or miss around here but I'm hoping we get in our game.

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Submitted by Robert F (not verified) on

It is okay for you to swing a golf club any way you like, but that's not a Peak Performance Golf Swing. The question is what's actually happening when you try to start with your weight preloaded heavy right. 

First, I recommend you get video of yourself swinging the ball from face on and down the line. Then you can look at those videos and see what's ACTUALLY happening in your swing, as opposed to what you think is happening, or what your buddies tell you is happening. Given what you say your results are, my guess is that you have a reverse weight shift when you try to preload right. Most likely your left knee kicks in and your right leg straightens when you take the club back and up. Then, when you try to transition the weight forward, the right knee collapses and the weight actually goes back and you yank the club out and around to keep from falling over. So, cure the problem. Practice maintaining slight outward pressure on the knees, particularly the left knee, and feel a slight squat when you turn and take the club up in the BUS. Then you should be able to shift the weight forward with the lower body when you ring the bell and bump, rather than have it fall behind.

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Submitted by MikefromKy Go B... (not verified) on

(BTW. May be the most comfortable 2 under par I ever had for 9 holes. No bogies and not even a good chance for a bogie)

Man I wish I had this kind of non talent.

Steve you don't give yourself enough credit.If my swing looked half as good as yours I would be trying out for the redneck tour our something I would definitely be happy with it.

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Thanks.
Playing in Mt Sterling Ky. this weekend about a 1 hr and 40 minute drive staying down their tomorrow night. 69 and a 30 percent s chance of rain tomorrow and 83 and sunny Sunday. The weather should be nice enough. My target is 85 or below both days that will be a good weekend.
 

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Submitted by Kooka Sydney (not verified) on

An old Aussie stir to mates ... silly hat...  keep up the good work lads..

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

Hey you've got a big basketball game coming up there in Kentucky. I bet it gets mentioned a time or two a day. ;-)

Edit: I can't see any good reason to let anybody but the SEC win. ;-)
Nobody ever knows what a bunch of college age kids are going to do but it's Kentucky's to lose. They definitely have the best team if they play ball.

Edit again: One more to go!!!

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Submitted by NeilofOz (not verified) on

Robert, I know where your'e coming from and I was so excited when
Surge got the "Online Lessons" going, but my feeling after seeing
my swing on video, is that there are so many indiscretions of the
PPGS and Iv'e tried so many ways to correct these, I feel the only
way forward for me is to attend a school of some sort, so I can, as 
one would say, get "Re-Calibrated".  If I send a video to Don, I know
that I'll get a comment that I already know, tried and failed. Basically
I'm saying that what I need is a direction from outside myself on a
1-to-1 basis to see if it can change my thinking. Most people are far
more gifted athletically than me, remember the old saying "those
who can do, those who can't, teach", I think I'm the latter.
            

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Submitted by Robert F (not verified) on

It may not even be that your swing has changed, because as the guy in the video points out, a given individual will have a certain lie angle need regardless of the swing theory employed. It's about how you swing the club and load the shaft. Changes in the actual shaft between clubs may cause variation, though. For your clubs, like mine (fitted 20+ years ago and never checked again), they may simply have changed after all of the swings. Repeated stress on the club from swinging will tend to flatten the lie angles over time.

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My heart says UK wins it all but my head tells me one game at a time. We actually have it pretty good around here UK,Louisville and Ohio State . Hopefully UK wins it so the SEC can dominate football and basketball this year.

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Submitted by Bassman1308 (not verified) on

This may be a long way from the swing you describe but it is easier on my back and I'm hitting it very straight. Tell me what you think.  My takeaway is more straight away as I feel like I'm trying to keep my arms in front of me, club face sqaure to target as long as possible.  After a slight shoulder turn,  I feel like I'm starting my downswing by dropping my right elbow downward toward the front of my right side, letting my clubhead lag behind. This feels like a 'armsy' swing but I generate good power and the acuracy , I think, comes from the clubface being on line so long. I had more trouble doing this with my shorter irons than the longer clubs. Does this sound like anything anyone else does ?
JC 

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Submitted by Robert Meade (not verified) on

Whether our clubs are 20,15 or only a few years old the lies may be off. Mine were only 1 year old and custom fit just last year. Now that I reflect on the fitting I recall that when he checked my lies it was rather brief and only with a 6 iron. Had the checking my lies proccess been a little more complete he would have realized I needed irons bent more upright than standard. No biggy, I fixed them myself. Though important it is not a difficult fix for anyone. I know most players will never take the time, money and interest to gain the skill and tools to adjust their own clubs and that's fine. However we can pay to have it done by a fitter near you. It is one of the least expensive yet most crucial fixes  we can ever do for better golf. Why keep blaming your swing or clubs for bad shots? If your clubs are 'off' how will you know if it your clubs, your alignment or swing fault? I say illiminate the clubs as a fault, especially when you just don't know. Easy to check and cheap to have fixed. Why play another season not knowing and blaming everything but your lies? And no Neil you don't have to get "a new set of irons immediately". Do have your lies and lofts checked immediately.
Get the new set when you can, meanwhile adjust your old ones.

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Submitted by Joe (not verified) on

I'm doing very well with the PPGS swing , especially with my short and mid irons, but not grtting enough distance with my Driver. On the range recently I noticed I could get more distance with my driver if I turned more with my shoulders,getting into that sacred buriel ground, but generating a lot more speed with a longer arc. Any sugestions as to my hybred swing.

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

Always hard to completely visualize a swing from a written description but there is nothing you said that wouldn't apply to a PPGS from what I am "seeing" in your words with the possible exception of "club face square to the target as long as possible". The toe should be "up" (to the same angle as the spine angle) in the takeaway and it sounds like you may have it shut (mine often is also), but other than that it sounds OK. Also from the description you may be getting into the "low and slow takeaway" that Surge doesn't like.

One thing that makes me think I may not be correctly seeing your description is that you should be able to hit the shorter irons even better than the longer clubs. But then again I hit my 3 and 4 irons better than my other irons when I am playing well, so everything doesn't always make sense.

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

Ha ha! I am already on the redneck tour and I am not even anywhere close to the best player on that tour. LMAO

Sometimes the stars all align just right and I have a good day. Wish it happened more regularly but it doesn't. I can throw up a 78 in a heartbeat on a lot of days.

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Submitted by Henkiolent1 (not verified) on

Good Lesson. I am about the same age, size, and weight of Don. I am in much better shape as I have worked out for years. Yet I find just what he is alluding to to be true with my swing. I have developed a "comfort" speed. I can pick up a speed stik or other device and easily swing over 100 mph BUT put a ball there and I resort back to my smooth 90 MPH. I really noticed this with a friend who although is younger, he was having some major medical problems and had dropped to 150 lbs. Yet he smashed 250 yard drives.

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Submitted by Robert Meade (not verified) on

I understand how you feel, For some only one and one will help. I still think you could benifit from the afordable online route in the meanwhile.
I am with you though and hope that some day they do have a Surge school in Australia and or New Zealand. I'm sure Surge has thought about it and if it's possible he'll do it. You may want to try to contacy him personally through customer service or other means and discuss the possibility. It would depend on several cost factors including - how many students would  come to a PPGS event down under? If there is enough support who knows Neil. Let's hope it happens.

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Submitted by MikefromKy Go B... (not verified) on

Looks like DJ got it back to even and Phil Michelson is running a muck today at -9. 

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Submitted by NeilofOz (not verified) on

Surge, I wish you could organise a school downunder or even in Kiwi land, I'd be
the first to sign up. Last weekend I did a 3 day stint with 9 other guys on some country courses, came in runner-up after 54 holes, last year I came last, so there
gotta be some improvement there. Still feel that I have more potential, but I just
can't get my H/C under 18. I reckon a 3 day school would be the answer. 

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

I don't think I'm in that "can do" group either but at least we have a lot of company. LOL

Used to think I was pretty good at anything I tried to do....Until I decided to give golf a try. Sort of funny actually. Of all of the things I could choose to do with my time I pick the the one where I have the least talent. Glutton for punishment I guess. LOL

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Submitted by Jandavis (not verified) on

Don and others.  Yesterday I had a session with a Club Pro where he checked my clubs to gauge the length I hit each one to see if I had a matched suitable set.  The results on the machine showed that my equipment is great for me, and well spaced, but he picked up a problem in my swing!  Coming through I'm managing to close the club face; the de-lofting of the club was evident in the longer clubs and particularly in the driver even though it is a High Trajectory.The club pro is a traditional teacher and suggested I swing through outside the line.I have been working on the Don swing for over 12 months by myself and wondered if anyone else has this problem.

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Submitted by Robert Meade (not verified) on

Neil,
Why don't you do the next best thing which is the personalized online lesson.

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Submitted by Robert Meade (not verified) on

Here's a brief update on my adventures in improving my clubs and there performance.
Many of you know i bought a loft and lie machine in addition to a grinder. As per the Kenny Knox video and his mention of modifying the heal and toe areas of his wedges so they are more user friendly(versitile) for various uses such as opening the face while not having the bounce raise the leading edge too much. Anyhow I made some subtle changes on my 53, 58 and 60* wedges. So far I like the way they perform now.The most iffy is the 60. I may choose to leave it out as I can now easily open my 58 to 60-62. I also slightly blunted the leading edges too and they now dig less and I have fewer 'fatties'. I am really starting to gain more confidence in my wedges and am moving away from my dominant reliance on my 48* PW.
As for my lies and lofts. I'm having some serious fun as I carefully check where my soles are striking my lie board and then adjusting them accordingly. I am also going through all the lofts gapping all my irons so I truely cover distances as evenly as possible. I am now completely convinced that a large part of the reason I have still had a challenge hitting many of my well struck shots to the right is because all of my clubs were too flat. I discovered that they needed to be 3 degrees more upright. Now all are right on. Several also did need loft adjustment too. Some minor, some more so.
I am really looking forward to getting out tomorrow and going first to the range and then to play 18. I am still very surprised that only one or two of you fellow golfers have said yes I did get my lies checked and adjusted. Some said it sounded like a good idea but I don't recall anyone yet saying they have had their lies checked and adjusted. WHY?? (Steve I know your reason). So everyone else WHY not?
It is a vital yet cheap fix. I guess most are simply not interested in it or don't realize the importance and effect it can have on their ball flight.
BTW, checking the lies (not adjusting them but checking them) is something you can do yourself easily. All you need is some masking tape (or similar) and a make shift lie board (some thing you can swing over that will leave a mark on the sole).
I'll invite you to view what how most fitters feel about it.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

We do know that Surge sees the value of adjusting the lies on his clubs as in his case all his clubs are shorter and adjusted flatter because his arms are long relative to his hieght.

 

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

I don't think it was a coincidence today that I hit the ball farther and straighter than I had all year.
As I commented yesterday at the end of my practice I hit 25 balls with my driver at absolutely 100% speed. I used to practice that way often and was much better at driving the golf ball than I have been for the last few months. Don't know why I quit doing it, just never occurred to me for some reason.

Today on the course what felt like about 80% was hitting balls farther than I had hit it all year and on one open hole where I felt free to step it up a little more I still hit the ball right down the middle.

Every time I had tried to swing faster for the last few months I had little control of the swing.

Until (or if) that approach quits working for me I won't be forgetting to end my practice by taking some real whacks at it.

As I have long known the only way to learn to throw harder is to throw harder and the only way to learn to run faster is to run faster so I have always used step back drills and downhill running to train baseball players. I see no reason for golf to be any different. Speed is speed and your mind has to experience it to duplicate it. 

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Submitted by NeilofOz (not verified) on

Robert, just viewed the "lie" video and was amazed at the "truth" it showed,
made me want to get a new set of irons immediately. My irons are HG's
and were fitted some 15 years ago when I first started playing, am starting to
feel that my swing may have changed as most of my shots go left, thanks for
putting this on the blog.ÂÂ