What Does Each Hand Do At Impact?

To much BS here, videos should be worked a bit more, What about zooming the motion of the hands?, jokes and slang should be ommited and content enhanced, please be aware that there are lots of international viewers that do not understand slang

I am posting this comment with some trepidation. I first started with the Surge swing almost two years ago when I bought the 2010 Masters special. I have been very pleased with the service and with Surge's daily lessons. Thank you, Surge and team.

I want to add a commment about one of the problems I had, and that is with the concept of the "catcher's mitt". Watching the lesson today, the place I thought was the mitt was not the right place. So I gained some new knowledge today.

The trepidation I referred to above is about mentioning a tip I read way back in the mid-50's that seems to fit in with todays lesson about rotation. I am sure most of us know how  a hay bale is constructed with layers of grass folded. It is solid as can be on the ends, but on the sides it has spaces where the folding takes place. To get to the point, the tip was to imagine a hay bale lying across the target line a short distance down the line, maybe a foot or two. The tip was to imagine driving the toe of the club into the side of the hay bale.

This image seems to me to be consistent with the catchers concept, but I have learned over the years to be careful trying to add comments to professional's advice. I offer this information with best intentions. If Surge or anyone objects, it would not be my first time so take it if it helps, if not toss it

Surge,     You are to cool for school. needless to say an ole man talking. Just wanted to say "Thanks" for your, time, trouble, and great help to us, and the great game of golf.  A "Surge-ite"  Ban-Joe

 Robert, Lump in throat and tears in ma' een watching this one. A truly spectacular links course.The type I love. Watched the video of Danny Bhoy's one with the piper in the picture. It is a wonder my shrieks of laughter were not heard world wide. My first British Army posting was to a 'tough' area in Glasgow, Scotland. 3 years of never to be forgotten, genuine, hard, but friendly and loyal folk. I was proud to have been addressed during  those three years,by locals as "Hey Jimmy!" Some of the things I experience their in that lovely city, would make your hair curl. Yet I loved it.
Trumps course is now threatened with a bluidy windfarm. When will folk admit that they are an ecological nightmare,inefficient and costly?
So a quiet evening in prospect and then on the morrow........One handed swings and let 'er rip! Must turn the video on again and listen to the pipes. Have another great round tomorrow. DH PMGAS

Comments below gave you some ideas. I will re-inforce the recomendation to get the "situational and working the ball" series offered here. I added 25-35 yards to my drives using the draw the ball methodes discribed by Surge.
These videos can add yards to your years! They're worth the small cost of purchasing them.

It's the camera angle, Gil.

Yes Dave its a very important part of the surge swing & thats why he promotes the idea regularly. The one I have the most trouble with is the forward mitt & need to work on that.  I am getting a lot of pleasure from the Surge swing & cant see me playing any other way

 Jsmith:

No trepidation needed. I have used make shift impact bags on the same drill. Place it where the mitt should be and deliver the club toe up into it on the FUS.
PS, don't use anything without a lot of give or the shock vibrations will get you. A hay bale seems well suited to the drill.

PMG

THE FOLLOWING IS TOTALLY UN-GOLF RELATED AND IS SELF SERVING!  IF EASILY OFFENDED BY NON GOLF POSTS ON THE BLOG, DO NOT READ FURTHER!

Alrighty then, my reason for this post is that Vaughan and I are in the process of discussing moving to Florida.  We prefer coast, west first, east second.  I would prefer to continue doing my fitting work.  I would look to work out of a golf club initially and possibly permanently or possibly even a driving range as I do now.  Any contacts that can be forwarded to me or suggestions as to possible venues would be greatly appreciated.  A retirement community such as the villages or a Dell Webb area would not be bad either.  Any other ideas or suggestions are also welcome. Let me say thanks for any help from Vaughan and me.  

Steve :

    YANKEE is the hard one!  LOL  one "good ole boy" to another

    Amos

Great video Surge!!  I've watched it several times - you touched on the key elements of the swing - very simple but so easy to complicate because we try to overthink and over-analysis instead of just letting it happen.   Hit 'em straight!  R2

The Villages would be awesome Doc. Whoever gets you at their golf club, range or fitters shop will be better for it. Hope you can continue to help us regardless of where you go on line and in person:)

Russty, maybe you should forget about it during the swing but make it part of your waggle? Set up to the ball and swing the club into the mitt on each side before you take your actual swing.

We have lots of International viewers that understand just fine. I love slang and accents of my foreign friends. When I liston to a Brit, Scot or Irishman I love it pal. Our Ausies and Kiwis understand just fine. I am forced to liston better and end up learning more. Get over it buddy or move on.
Good golfing to you:)

Evening Surge Nation. Enjoyed todays daily video. Played 18 and turned around a tough front nine 45 with a tidy 39 on the back that included a fun birdy on a 185 par 3 that I hit my 3 wood stif to a two foot kick in. Ball wasn't flying to far today in a cold rainy breezy day for golf here. Almost didn'T play today for the weather but had a good feeling some good shots would happen anyway. Glad I went though I did get wet and cold. Oh well, worth it of course.

Here's  beautiful jaw dropping golf course that Trumps team put together in Scotland-
Enjoy and dream a little

http://www.youtube.com/watch?f...

If you want a "little" draw, experiment with closing the clubface in varying degrees at address and make your normal vertical swing.  If you want a "bigger" draw, check out Surge's "Working the Ball" video.  He'll show you how it's done.

DH, Your enthusiasm is infectious. Glad to hear about your lights on moment. Isn't golf grand. Good golf to you my friend.
PMG

Doc:  Florida sounds like a great place to live, especially this time of year!  I hear there are a lot of nice courses down that way.  Keep us posted on how things go.  Wish I had some contacts down that way, but I can't be of much help :-((   Wherever you move to, they will certainly be very, very lucky to have you in the neighborhood!!  R2

 Here's a big double thumbs up to your post.

Great explanation of what each hand does at impact. When I analyze the swing, and hit a bad shot, I can usually figure out what I did wrong, to cause it to go where it did. If you follow the Surge as I have, you will eventually figure out how to correct your bad shots. This great explanation of what each hand does is just a description of getting things in sync, so that beautiful results will happen.

Mario:

I am trying hard to give you the benefit of my doubt, in spite of your sarcastic and belittling criticism. Perhaps there are in fact, slang words or American terms you are unfamiliar with. If that is the actual facts, then please ask for clarification in a little more of a friendly and humble manner, and you will receive many pleasant and helpful replies, instead of the style you are now getting from the majority. You might also keep in mind that this sight has a search block of it's own in the right column. You might find it quite helpful with further clarification and information. In regards to American Terms, try using Google or just simply ask, pleasantly, and you shall receive.

Play nicely with others, give it a try, what can it hurt. You might be surprized to find solid friendly advice and help. A little laughter and joviality is healing medicine and good for the soul, do not discourage it so lightly.

Good luck and PMG.

 As one who can have no influence on where you and Vaughan re-locate to, other than having you in our prayers and thoughts. 'Self Serving'? You have more than earned our respect for your untiring assistance to so many of us Surgites. Hope the Surge Nation comes to your assistance BIG TIME Doc.We wait with interest further news. Come on FLORIDA here is a man of courage, character and honesty, with the skills to make your Golfers happy.What more do you want? Are you LISTENING?
Good Luck and God Bless from a Scots/Irish rascal in New Zealand.
Respectfully Yours DH and his Ball Hound.

 Steve

It also does not help that we; Park in the drive way, and drive on the parkway.

And us hillbillies are always fixing something.  Like I am fixing to go to the store.

How would we explain the shortening and running together of words?  Like our own Ebonics.

Like:
jwanto - do you want to
juetyet - did you eat yet
and my favorite
getrdone - get her done

Then there are the one word replies that say it all.

really - is that really what you meant to say
             is that really what you meant to do

get - you had better take off running or prepare to get  
         a good whippin.
get - also yelled at a dog to run it off

shucks - ah, it was nothing, really

Nuff said,
Dick

 

Twas and is a beautiful site laddy!
:) Happy to bring a bit of joy to your heart

Cheers Robert.  My practice swings are a thing of beauty , but when I address the ball, all is completely forgoten as the ball becomes my focus. End up hitting off the back foot & you name it.  I have improved a lot & now regularly beat my mates, but still fall back to bad habits 30% of the time. This is only on full swing shots mainly & maybe should start playing with my eyes shut like DH does to snap out of it

THANKS SURGE FOR THE LESSON

Mario brothers

How is this for international slang?

Don't be a wanker.

Did I say that right Dragonhead?

Got my video lesson back today. Was not as bad as I thought it would be.

Things to work on posture getting my ankles back under the hips / hip joints. Ankles / feet to far under my body resulting in to much weight on the heals rotational habit. Work on not dragging the hands inside to quickly and shorten the swing. But the posture may the cause of a lot of the issues.

Was well worth the investment. Now I have something to work on to get me over the hump.

Welcome back Dorothy. You have been missed.
I have been looking longingly at hybrid sets lately, too.
Will just have to pray my boat comes in soon.
Regards
Bob

Hi Jsmith.   For some reason I have never thought about the catchers mitt during the swing. I'm sure Surge tells us this to stop us from turning too much & keeping over the toe line, but for me its hands perpendicular throughout the swing, to a vertical club at the top & maintain firm wrists throughout the swing.   Aiming for the left ear to finish. I think its ball position, both forward & back in your stance & closer or further away from you that dictates the outcome

It says the torso is the hub.  Hold the club passively, means don't move the hands.   The shoulders turn, the arms lift, call it what you will but a rose......you get the point.  One piece take away simply put means that everything moves in unison. Which is exactly what this swing is.  Not to be belittle anything at all but we know that the lifting is not really what is being done.  If that was the case the club would be up in front of us before we ever got the shoulders turned.  The more accurate description would be that the turn and lifting are happening simultaneously.  It has to or else one would get out of sink with the other.  Sometimes you just have to hear between the lines.

Russty:  Do what Dragonhead does: Start making practice swings without a ball.  Focus ALL your attention on the T-finish, recoil and relax.  Then try it with your eyes closed so you can get the "feeling" of the swing.  I've been doing this for a year now and FINALLY, I've ingrained the way a full swing should feel.  It takes some practice but you can do it!!  Hit 'em straight! R2

Russty Kiwi--I am just the opposite. It is part of my being. Trained as an engineer, I can't look at a pipe without thinking is the fluid in laminar or turbulent flow? If Surge says mitt, I have to see the mitt. This attitude has ruined a lot of good days on the course and is probably the reason I never became an accomplished golfer

My buddy is a Class A professional and past sectional champ. In the old days we used to do our pub crawl act. One day he hit the curb when we were parking in front one of our watering holes. I said,"Don't you ever wonder what that does to the rayon cords in the tire?" he looked at me and said simply, "No."  My conclusion was that was the reason he could play and I couldn't.

But, I really liked today's lesson. If I can just swing as you suggest and as Surge describes in the lesson, I will take another step forward.

My wife and I have always wanted to visit your beautiful country. Maybe one of these days.

 Doc

I spent the last 35 years in Fl.  I lived in north Fl for 5 years and then SE Fl for 30 years.  I have spend considerable time in SW Fl as well.  I would recommend SW or the west gulf coast highly over SE Fl.  The people over there are so much nicer, and the pace is a lot slower.

All that being said, I have to throw our hat in the ring.  It is great out here in Ok, and the people are great.

Any place you guys land will be blessed to have you.

You are in my prayers,
Dick

Robert :

    Likewise -- it was cool and a little breezy in the "low desert" also.

    Played 18 today -- not as well as Monday - but certainly better than last Friday -(See previous posts)

    I am blaming the cooler wether, but I culd not seem to make many putts - a lot of "good putt but no cigar" -- everything from just short to the "cellophane bridge" to just missing the edges, etc - and similar with the chipping.

    Driving was more accurate than Monday, but a little shorter on average.
     10 of 14 fariwasy, 175 yard average -- and again, two of the misses by a matter of inches in the first cut.
      Only 2 GIR but one par and TWO BIRDIES  -- I can not remeber the last time I had 2 Birds in one round!  On the other hand - only one par sucks!  But I had 9 bogies -- several of them "coulda" been pars with just a touch better putting or chipping.   One of the Birdies was a chip in from about 20 feet off the green.

      Wound up with a 92 -- about my average this Winter. Boy am I looking forward to warm weather and lower scores!

      Keep hitting them STRAIGHT and LONG

      Amos

 I've poked a relative I have down there. I'll let you know what, if anything, I hear.

You've never thought of moving to Vegas, have you? ;-)

Help  Has anyone out there been able to play golf with the surge's swing after a back fussion surgery from L-2 to S-1 let me know rentalguidefresno@att.net e-mail

Dragonhead or Steve Smith, where can I see the one handed swing video? Played yesterday and my swing fell apart after about 4 holes. I certainly need a LIGHTS WENT ON moment. I am using the Surge Swing for about a year now, some times it works very well and sometimes it just disappears. In the past year my handicap has gone UP by three shots eventhough i feel i am playing well sometimes, just no consistency. Maybe I need more practice!!!!!!. Ritchie 1  

Not confusing to me. Sometimes Surge emphasises certain aspects of the take away but over all he is very consistent. He has always held that it is "a little turn and alot of lift". Though the arms are mentioned, it is normally discussed as a rotation in the shoulder sockets. Referance to the hands and wrists are are sometimes passive sometime quiet other times firm or stiff, but it is always said that no wrist action is good wrist action. Rotation? Absolutely. But as Steve says, for some it is conscious and others it just happens as part of that one peice move. As for the "lifting from the get go", yes and that may be said to remind us that it is not a turn then lift but it all happens together simultaneously.
This daily lesson was about the hands so more thought was placed on that aspect.
Conclusion, no, not a two peice takeaway. The torso moving is the"little turn" and the "alot of lift" happens as the arm to hands unit moves the clubhead through the mit and up the tree. All done with no wrist cock and very subtle rotation toe up in a one peice move.

Perhaps my question was not detailed enough. My thought of "to the ear" works for me because it's not literal, but a thought which raises the hands to a more vertical position versus around me and "laid off". My hands are between my ears and my shoulder, literally, at the top. This "to the ear" thought has also helped my position of my left wrist at the top. I was normally, and incorrectly, cuppy at the top with my left wrist. When I think of a flat wrist at the top it naturally changes the position of the club at the top from a more "in the ear" to the present location of in between as mentioned earlier. Maybe my explanation needed an explanation. Thanks for the video link. It was helpful.

What does each hand do at impact? My answer is nothing except hold on to the club. To feel the timing for releasing the arm rotation, I like to turn my arms back and forth over the ball (or spot behind it) the same distance each side and see the club face square in the middle. For me, it helps time the arm rotation to the bump. It's more of a set up feel than a swing thought.