Introducing SwingTECH

I just looked at the video, and I agree it definitely looks like a flatter swing. It also looks like it's anchored higher than in Don's video. I'm thinking that moving the anchor point up or down would tilt the swing plane from flatter to more vertical for a single individuals height. Maybe it's one of those "action, opposite and equal reaction" physics things that drive a few people here nuts. I wonder if you could replace the handle with a swing rite trainer and kill two birds with one aide so to speak. I'd love to try both, but I just spent my discretionary golf allowance on my yearly club membership..

Dick,

You mean that is not how I am supposed to be doing it? I'm shocked! ;-D

Kevin

Surge, your action/reaction theory is so wrong as you use it. For example, just because someone takes the club back flat doesn't mean their reaction is to swing over the top - they can (and the pros all do) swing back on the plane from the inside - not over the top. Please don't use bad physics to describe your good swing.

Why can't it be based on cost to make with some profit added. This notion of if it is in demand I should increase the price because I can is just artificial inflation. Which to me means the intention of the product is not to help people become better golfers, it is to sell something people will pay me a lot more for than it costs me to make. We have lost our way in this country when it comes to intention.

Well, understood! It is made of steel and the intricate working parts are not cheap either.

I see you are not only, "not a man to be messed with" but a clear thinker as well
I thought I'd been vague enough to conceal my deeper thoughts on this subject (it is a golf blog after all)
I'll have to watch myself in future - your eyes see too well

I have a Swing TECH set up on pole in the teaching area our Peak Performance/Swing Surgeon Leraning Learning Center in Columbia, South Carolina. When used correctly it absolutely maintains the correct Swing Surgeon positions. I personally use it for 50 to 100 swings per day for warm-up and maintenance of my golf swing. I also have a second Swing TECH for travel when I am plaing in a golf tournament. The top of door attachment allows me to practice in my room and has me ready for the next days events. Some students may need some assistance in making sure the SwingTECH is set up correctly for them. We are here to help, just give us a call. 803-260-0313 coach Joe cell or
803-750-1015 coach Joe at the Learning Center.
This is truelly and easy practice and learning tool to perfect the Swing Surgeon swing.if used properly.

Steve

I was like that back when I was in the Corps. I was a 10 mile a day runner. I could eat a cow, or even a rabbit or a chicken, if I wanted too, and just run it off.

My body does not let me do that any more. I guess it got tired of the way I was treating it. I don't regret any of the things I ever did that put me in this condition. They were things that needed to get done, and I was the fortunate one chosen for the jobs.

I listen to my body a whole lot better these days. It tells me it likes the Surge Swing, so I do it. I guess that is why I get testy when the trolls out there take a cheap shot at Surge.

I know it works,
Dick

Jack, I practice the swing and positions in front of a mirror every morning, and in the execution of the swing I still have problems getting it right. This is one more potential tool for those who want it and can afford it.

I can't find the SwingTECH on the Swing Surgeon web site. What am I missing?

Steve

We are completely in line on this whole train of thought. My father was a small town preacher too. He never drove a Lincoln Town Car. He always had at least one other job too. He raised us to relie on ourselves and family.

I am all for a helping hand, but not for a hand out. I will help you get back on your feet, but you have to stand on your own.

The bible is pretty clear on the subject.

Work=eat
Don't work=don't eat.

Hunger is a great motivator.

Dick

Sounds like the Zone people do funny math. 1000 g = 1kg = 2.2 lbs = 35.2 ounces, so 1 ounce = 1000/35.2 = 28.4 grams

I think you've really identified or more appropriately described what Surge referred to as the "upper center of gravity" as the "swing center" or what I think I've heard Surge refer to as the "axis of rotation" located at the nape of the neck. It may, however, be missing the point to dwell on pure physics as it relates to the golf swing without a copy of "The Golfing Machine" handy. We can then ruminate the theories of the conservation of angular momentum and the connection and synchronization of the complex lever systems of the body in producing club head speed. That is, if you really want to crap up your swing.

Some of us can't "see the forest for the trees." So, I'll just enjoy the site, and people; enjoy the Surge; and enjoy shooting low scores. After playing for over 50 years, I can safely say that the concepts here work better than I thought would be possible with or without strict conformance to the Laws of Physics. While it may be more appropriate to say that the swing concepts conform better in a biomechanical relationship, who gives a rat's ass.

Gotta go put my soap box away.

Ciao

Bruce

I am guessing that you're joking about it being plastic? It certainly isn't plastic. Your view of economics is a bit ascued as well. Price structure is derived by what demand dictates and what production is able to accomodate.

Thank you Phil, you are quite observant. I am Ralph “Swing” Crafton and I own and distribute the Swingtech System. Swingtech was invented in the middle 80’s by a Canadian teaching professional. Lee Trevino promoted the 2nd generation Swingtech, and you are right, he does have a flat swing. Back then, Swingtech was four foot long , the setup was at eye level, the distance was with the simulated club at belt buckle and the line up was over the right shoulder.

Don endorses the third generation Swingtech, which is five and one-half foot long, the set up is at shoulder level, the distance is at toe line and the lineup is at the center of the body. I happen to like the shot angle of Lee swinging the Swingtech and wondered how long it would take someone to notice the flat swing. Don and I will work on a new introductory video for my home page. Thanks again

Dick,

The cost of duct tape is going up because the cost of glue is rising because of increased fuel costs. You need to apply on Form AFU2012 to the Department of Non-specific Stimulus Assignments for a $10,000 grant to purchase a new roll of duct tape and have enough money left over to live well beyond your means - until you need another roll of duct tape.

Kevin

Kevin

I just need to go ahead and hit the lotto so I can have me one of those gadgets.

Dick

Phil

I got to your post before I could go raid the fridge.

Thanks for ruining my appetite. You probably did me a favor any way.

I am sending it on to all my right wing pals on my email list.

We are just bleeding ourselves to death over here. It is a great reminder as to why most free nations don't last over 100 years.

I have been getting ready for the coming "moment" for years now. That is one of the reasons I moved from south Florida out to the heart land. I know we can take care of ourselves out here when hard times come.

Keep your chin up pal, we ain't going down without a real fight,

Keeping it vertical, and cleaning my guns, in Oklahoma,
Dick

Now my mind is racing.

Steve,
You are on the money. Now if only I could analyze and fix my golf game that easy. lol

Lynn42

Basic economics 101. Sorry about that! Simply put, if your demand for a product exceeds your capability to produce the supply (basic law of supply and demand) then you have a product that is priced too low. I'm sorry about the system but that is the way it works. Yes, it is very inflationary as free enterprise is based on that very principal. Every worker wants more money. As he gets more money, he spends more money on hard goods. As the demand for those goods goes up then the producer of those goods has to raise his prices in order to monitor the demand to some degree. If I'm only able to produce X amount of goods then I have to do something to lower the demand. Keep in mind, while all of this is going on my workers want an increase in their pay as well so that they can buy goods too. So, yes, you are entirely correct that the system is flawed and it perpetuates itself particularly with the government keeps pumping fiat money into the system which does nothing but continues the spiraling inflationary trend. The other option is deflation and I don't think anyone would be real happy with that either. At some point in time there will come a day of reconing when the system will ultimately fail as we have seen in post WWII Germany and what we are now seeing in a lot of the EURO based European countries.

As to this product which started the whole conversation. It is priced equitably for the product, in line with other training aides, and is not out of line for what went in to it.

I think you might have meant Jim Hardy and I hope that Bill was referring to the Surge swing being a better swing than the one plane swing. I am sure that you know what I'm referring to as the definitions and correlation of plane refers to shoulers and shafts and in the Surge swing they are on two different planes as they swing.

Yeh Phil
Reliant piglets being reliant on bigger pigs - both fattened up for control
I'm sure you've also heard the "frog in the boiling water" trick
Mice & men - Frogs & pigs going round & round in circles of designed stupidity
Thank goodness for golf & good mates

Actually Brian, not all pros swing flat. especially the guys on the champions Tour, many still use a more upright vertical swing. Also there are many vertical swingers on the regular PGA Tour. A far as action reaction, as Surge uses it, in most cases correct. It certainly is true for most amatures that they go back to deep and then come over the top. Going vertical first on the way back does make a more inside move on the way forward much,MUCH easier as thousands of users on this web site will gladly tell you. Many will follow my post with likes and amens and follow up comments. My personal 3 years with this swing says his action reaction is plain true. Sorry Brian, Clemens or WK, you won't find any friends here.

Steve

Haha. Wouldn't it be great if we could just work on any aspect of our game until we "got it down." Then we could move on to the next problem, and so on. Nope, it don't work like that. We get one thing "down" and turn our attention to the next and then before we know it, the thing we had "down" is cropping up again.

Guess that is what keeps us coming back for more.
Dick

Dick Lee:

Human beings have an immense to forget ot ignore history. with out fail, EVERY society that has tried socialist "nanny state" governments has failed -- at least since the time of the Romans -- and mayebe before them.

With a rich country, the decay takes a long time, but it will surely happen as long as we have "special interest" groups (some legitimate, some not so) that want the government to "fix" their problem of the moment, we will have "government by crisis". Unfortunately, the "solution" to today's problem usually creates a bigger problem a few years down the road. But by theat time, the people in power are gone - and the blame is passed on to the current administation.

Amos

Hi Steve,
Your totals looks about right. And if that's your day, you ARE very active. To keep your calories up (which you obviously need) and cut the protein a little, you could add a bit more GOOD fat, like you did with the almonds, and aside from what might be in your protein shakes, you could eat more carbs (about 60-75 grams per meal for your activity level). That would still only be 4 or 5 carb servings on a diabetic meal plan. But 180 grams of protein every day is a LOT. That's hard on your kidneys over the long haul.

Nah nah nah, nah nah nah, waaave goodbye! Don't let the door hit you in the arse when you leave!

BTW WHEN (not if) your disc protrusions produced from the anatomically incorrect rotational swing that Mr Paul Wilson endorses starts to crush the nerve roots of your spinal vertebrae causing back spasms from hell and other complications you may want to ponder the error of your ways!

Amos,

Maybe the politicians need to be forced to listen to the Alabama song, "Pass It Down," over and over and over, until they finally get it or go stark raving mad and have to be locked up. Their version of passing it down is just plain wrong.

Kevin

Dick,

Just get 5-10 other guys and split the cost. Or, start giving "assistance" at 5 bucks a pop.

Kevin

Robert

I learned as a kid, if you have water in your boat, you have to stop the leak before you bother to start bailing out the water. The problem here is when the politicians see water in the boat, they think the answer is to make the hole bigger.

You can't put out a fire by throwing gas on it,
Dick

Here in Vegas they mostly install the poles in the bedroom.

Be careful of enriched flour for your carb intake. Your body treats enriched flour the same as sugar. Eating a slice of bread is like eating a teaspoon of sugar to your body. Look for 100% whole grain as the 1st ingredient when buying bread or pasta. They strip 9 minerals out of whole grains then add back 4 and call it enriched.

Amos, my thoughts exactly. I think our motto is "The United States of America, the World's Largest Charitable Organization, Whether You Like It Or Not."

B,
We'll miss you.

Just for you Dick. Have you any idea how the home inspection industry it run in New York? It would break your heart. One of my more recent clients is an inspector that lives in NJ but does inspections in NY and he's telling me that his income has been cut in half to the way it's been managed now.

Robert

Just as you predicted,

Amen brother,
Dick

Steve

Amen brother

I don't know which is worse. The people who are trying to lead us down that path, or the sheeple who just follow along.

Great movie.

Be happy in your work

Dick

Clemens

Don't get caught up on terms. Surge shows us how to do his swing, it works if you follow his directions. He has not steered me wrong yet. You rarely post on this blog. It seems every time we hear from you, it is a hit and run smear. We like it here, and are on here every day. Find a place you like and then stay there. You aren't going to change any thing about what we think about the Surge Swing. We don't care if he failed to carry the Y factor to the 10th level. If you are that anal, keep it to yourself. No body here cares.

As far as my broken body is concerned, this swing was revealed to Surge by an angle, The Golf Angel. I could not play for nearly 20 years until I found Surge. Now, I play 5 or 6 rounds every week.

Sounds like Heaven to me.
Dick

As Tom said, just click on the Surge Shop tab. Don't select either of the drop-down selections. In the main shop, it's the first item.

Dick Lee:

I sure you have heard this - but I think it bears repeating "

"The road to HELL is paved with good intentions"

Amos

There are many ways to swing a golf club. The trick is to be able to hit the ball square everytime
to play decent golf. 10 years ago I tried to learn Moe Normans single plane swing as the theory
made sense. I had a tough time repeating the swing as I lost it at the top of the backswing. When I found Don's swing 1 1/2 years ago I knew that it was the missing link and have been working on it since, with terrific results. Like anything else, it will take time for you to adapt and must be practiced. Don't expect a miracle overnight. Be patient and it will come. For a single plane swing IT IS THE ANSWER!

Bill
Chardon, Ohio