The Swing is Smooth and Flowing

This particular blog formate is back to normal for me now.

DoctorManny,

In addition to what Jackoz and Dick said, you may also want to check the length of your clubs. If they're too long, you can't really swing them vertically correctly. You might try choking down on the driver a bit to see if that helps.

You say open. Are you referring the the emails or the video playback above on this page?

Interesting. The comments and links to them in the left column no longer appear or are readable now that Disqus is operational. Will this be repaired? I really liked that function, but I can do without it in order to be able to edit my comments when I screw up. ;-)

And, this is an edit: Is it possible to move the Disqus Add New Comment box to the bottom of the page so people might actually read previous comments before they ask the same question again?

I understand about the 20 most recent comments area, However the old site under DISQUS when it was Don Trahan, and even still does, have the ability to keep a number count of each blogs total comments still attached to their main list of their most recent videos and blog page. That makes it easier to see if the count has gone up any since a last vist without having to actually go to that particular video/blog page. Also at the old site, the
hour/time of the post and the reply to, information lines are at the top of individual posts beside the name of the commentor. That seems to have a better flow to it, then to have it at the bottom of the comment. Is it possible to format it in that manner at our site as well. These are just
suggestions and excuse me if it seems otherwise. I know you are all working hard to make everything the best it can be. Thank you very much for your efforts. Cheers

LynnF--I don't recall replying to this, but even if I did, I thought of more to write, pertaining to both the "swing with the ball just in the way," and my post of lowing my tempo down on doctor's orders. It seems that they may be both related, or they may be equvalent mental processes to accomplish something similar. What do I mean?

As I reported, I couldn't maintain the "swing as though the ball is just in the way." It worked fine the first time, but not the second or third (maybe not enough time on task to make a definitive judgment). When I slowed my tempo down, it worked fine for the first five holes, but the wheels fell off the bus on #6--I may have begun competing with the other guys and swinging harder. Now,I have two different ways to practice this--and work on the one that feels the most natual. My first guess is that it is going to be the tempo slow down (I play some music), so tempo thoughts are in my DNA (so to speak). Speaking of type A, I'm not generally type A, but I am so in anything I want to excel in. One day at a driving range managed by a friend, he kept bringing me buckets of balls to hit. I hit seven buckets in a couple hours, and they had to carry my clubs to my car. That was before Surge's post against just going out and hitting balls without knowing what basics you are trying to learning while hitting those balls.

Well, the picture is back. I have never used this system before. Guess I will learn as I go. And the info is filling in the boxes are auto filling now.
Dick

And it loves me again
It's not lulling me into a false sense of security - It truly loves me again
Brady played Cupid for us

First off--you had me in a mild panic. I thought that LynnF and Lynn42 were two different people, and I thought I was writing the wrong name, so I went back and edited each post.

Back to tempo--I took "bacon thin divots" on all fairway woods and irons, even if I wasn't trying to. I don't know how many other elements worked without me knowing it. Lest anyone think I'm a converted "dot's" guy, I'm still a "dot's" learner who learns the dots and then crosses over to the totality of the swing.

I found that using a smaller practice club for indoor practice swings is great for a few reasons. 1. It helps you focus on the golf movement you’re trying to learn. 2nd (and I found out by personal experience) depending on what type of floor you have when practicing your swing i.e. thin commercial carpet glued to a concrete floor vs. carpet over padding. I had an unconscious tendency of not wanting to smack the hard floor with my club during a practice swing. Before you know it, I found that I was bringing my arms in a little bit at impact (chicken winging) in stead of the relaxed extension that needs to occur during a well executed follow through. This slight pulling up of the arms at impact could only been seen on video slow motion, and resulted in obvious miss hits, and the nagging tightness and knots in my shoulder area that had been bothering me for quite a while. Conclusion, make sure you have the proper surface to practice on if your club is going to contact the ground, I bought a used 5x5 mat from the driving range I frequent for $10 bucks, cut it in half to use the side that wasn’t worn out just for this purpose. Hope this helps.

I also noticied that the number of listed comments for a given blog are not registering correctly on the Primary Daily Videos page, where it lists the various last few videos posted with a comment number. It's not updating with the comments count properly yet.

Doc:

I passed your data over to my fitter and he says the material that I use might not be right for you. All your shots might fly to the right using this material even in an R.

However, he says that he does have a shaft for your swing speed that would get your attention.

I've seen guys with just a 230 yard carry get extra distance out of my club so I would still like to see you swing it to see if you can benefit from using this material before I give up having it used to help you get more distance.

The offer for you to come out here at my expense is still open but the best shaft for you might wind up being made from a different material than what is right for me. So the next step is up to you.

On a different issue ... I was down at Salt Creek Golf Club (http://www.saltcreekgc.com/) this past weekend for a long driving competition. The guy with the fastest recorded swing was in the meet. Almost all the contestants had the ball positioned forward off the left toe and not at the instep where Surge says it should go. They all used longer golf shafts than what I use (47" - X stiffness).

So if a person wants to hit the ball long - the way to go is a long shaft positioned off the left toe. Doing that causes a person to hit up on the ball ... just as you recommend. But if you fit them with short shafts you would be costing them a lot of distance - if you recall Surge said to have short irons back in the swing because of the shorter shaft length. I am not sure about your idea of hitting up on irons but hitting up on the driver is the right way to go. But to get the full benefit of the technique takes a longer shaft -- and you still can stay vertical. Several of the long driver guys had very vertical swings with 50" shafts.

One guy was with Aldila and several others were using House of Forged.

A number of these long driver guys had decent swings that still produced plenty distance (shortest was 360 yards - at sea level at 60 degrees). These guys also had very low handicaps and were golfers, not just long distance specialists.

Charlie,

I think I understand. The best drives I've ever hit was when I was thinking smooth even tempo and full T finish and that to me is the 25% reduction in effort for lack of a better word. After I watched the video of Surge swinging through the bag I made the mistake of upping my tempo in an effort to gain distance and lost timing and direction.

You are right, I think when you say the competitive nature kicks in and it's now keeping up with the other guys. With me it's a feeling that just creeps into my swing and I try to muscle up the swing, usually with less than great results. I usually walk a tight line between the two swings. If I get too relaxed trying to keep it smooth and flowing I find I let my left arm break down and wind up who knows where at the top of my backswing. I can control that with firm knees, but it's still a work in progress.

Hope this makes sense to you and doesn't make your hurt...lol. You've had enough pain to deal with. Hope you're feeling better.

LynnF

Robert

How do I pull up one of my comments and edit it?
Dick

Not after I've been in there

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I have been using the "Ferris Wheel" image and "feel" like I'm swinging on that path. it works great.But the only time it works consistently for me is when I also set-up to the ball with a "secondary" spine angle! Been doing it for years! When I start to loose the ability to hit the ball where I want it to go, I notice that I've not set up with a "secondary angle".. As soon as I set-up with it I'm back to great ball hitting..

Lynn, as you experienced by trying to copy it, Surge has a very upbeat or faster tempo than many of us. It is his personality. He talks fast, swings fast, it's his nature. As he said we need to find what individually fits us best. We're all different but can find the combination with practice of the fundementals. We then swing to the beat that fits our pace and gets us the consistency we need.
We're all a work in progress.

I'm having problems logging into sight and viewing my videos?? no problems a few weeks back. I followed new login instructions request in which new password would be emailed....but nothing?

Contacted support 2 times, but again no response. ???
please advise......fore

Thanks, Steve. If you have free time Thursday moring, please start praying before noon. Docs are going to drain the infection with a big syringe at about noon. I hope they put me out first.

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Hey Jack, It's back!

Robert:
Thanks. You are right about browser. Switched from Mozilla to IE and works fine.

I can't even play the video on you tube.

Beauty Dick - I'm a bit worried about Greg though, if him & I are on the same wavelength
Club butt over the toe line is a more precise way of viewing it - I like that
The catch in that would be for those of us who haven't shortened our drivers & are choking down on them
As a result the butt would be inside the toe line a bit

I play a lot of knockdown shots with the shorter clubs & go down the grip by varying amounts to do so
As a result I feel my hand position is more universal than the butt position
Happy trails Dick

Ouch. Hope they knock that down pretty quickly. Infections in the spine are not something you want to fool around with. Feel better.

Hi Lynn42--your statement of left arm breaking down may be the clue to what happened to me on the first hole that the wheels came off the bus. It was a 155 yard over a pond, and I thought I swung just like I did before, this time with a fairway wood. If I had maintained whatever I was doing right, I should have been OK, but I was way short. I can see the possibillity of my left arm breaking down. Something to think about.

Is this particular blog page and video completely out of alignment structure for anyone else besides me. All of the others i've checked are ok, but this one has the side colums overlapping the video and blog space and everything seems to be running and blending together into one big mess.

Jackoz--thanks for the note. I was airlifted to a big, well-staffed hospital without any chance to plan and get a second opinion. So, I'm a little scared that they would jump into action so quickly,

Will try next time out to use imagery......Lubbo

Question for you Medley. Which Swing Rite do you have? The original or the 2000 version.

Dan, Try out this follow link and play around with it a little. I think you'll like it better than the left column last 20 posts. I have mine set so i can toggle between the Disqus Dashboard page and it. Don't ask me how i did it though, somehow through the subscribe to feeds link at the site. Cheers

http://swingsurgeon.disqus.com...

Rolfer, That is one of the reasons i like the Swing Rite so much. If it wasn't for that i wouldn't be able to make full swings in my house,(8' ceilings) over the winter months. Not to mention all of the other benefits of it. I still highly recommend it to all, and so does Jlynn and Surge.

Thinking & feeling for you Charlie - all the best mate

Doctor,
Go to the search posts box (top right of this page). Put in the words ' flying right elbow'.
You'll find the artical with the like title. This video done by Surgea few months ago is priceless for helping us find the key for getting vertical.

I believe you have to be logged in to Disqus to have the ability to edit your comments.

Thanks, Dick. Please see my comment to Steve on this, with something i forgot to write. The pain was so intense in the ER last night that I (jokingly) asked the staff for a gun so that I could shot myself. I wouldnn' with this on my wost enemy regardless of the shaft he has for his driver.

Jimmy, It played all the way through for me just now.

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I have the original with the training grip. If you are thinking about getting one, they are lower cost through the Golf Stop and Doc Lynn.

tiptoeskst, Thanks so much for the updates. It's nice that you take the time to keep us informed on the process. Thank you.

I've played the 3 most recent videos, and they're playing fine on my end. Loading ahead of where they're playing and everything. I know it's a bummer the old comments aren't here yet, but I think we'll survive! It is soooooo nice to have some functions (like I just edited my comment because I forgot the word recent). This is AWESOME!

Is there green stuff between the Tee & Green?
I thought it was all trees

Charlie

Hope you are back on your feet soon. You are in my prayers. Keep us updated on your situation.
Dick

Lynn42--another thought/question about tempo. Every now and then, you hear someone say, or read something that someone wrote, and says that if you slow down your tempo, you reduce the chances of reducing lag too soon, increasing your club head speed by maintaining a larger lag. Seems like a valid way of getting more club head speed. Sounds counter-ituitive, but so much of golf is just that.

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I had the same problem after I added profile info. I had to go delete it and then refresh the page. That fixed the problem on my end.
Dick