The Bump Is For Real!

Dick,

Really sorry to hear about the rib.  I crushed a couple of toes at work once and hobbled around like Chester on Gunsmoke for a couple of weeks, but at least it didn't hurt to breathe.

At least you know what to expect next time and the rookie jitters won't be as much of a factor.  Hey, you took a shot at something many of us hackers would never be good enough to attempt. 

I'd tell you about my round today, but I'm afraid you fall on floor laughing and I know how painful that would be.  Let me just say my 92 year old mother-in-law could have beaten me and she uses a walker.

Listen to th Dr, be a good trooper, and kick butt the next time!

Hi Keith.

Ah yes, here we are again back to the "vertical" question.

Listen and watch on this video at the 3:20 to about 4:00 mark.
There is some really interesting and helpful information here.

At times, Keith, it sure looks and sounds like "slightly laid off" is viable.
 
That's because it is. That club is still light and is back on plane seamlessly. 
I'm thinking Don's intent (the spirit of)  is to remind us that is that elevated or upright (yes, and even vertical) is lighter and easier to swing vs. heavy, SBG, rotational.  The Nation will have a thought or two on this.
(BTW-many do have success going true vertical. Hi Mr. Smith.)

Emphasis is also made by Don not to let that club get away on the downswing. Yessireee...this can be a problem. I can be prone to that. 
Good reminder, Surge. 

So Nation, from my perspective, "slightly laid off" remains completely legit: 
and a small bonus: it doesn't create that vertical plane, which strikes me as
just one more little thing to contend with. 

Nation: any thoughts on the "plane" truth ?

 I guess that's one way!

 good to know. well I'm off now, taxi should be out front any minute now

Thanks Robert for the clarification

Surge: 

I've commented more positively about the PPGS then negetivly, excuse the spelling.  Surge I have said more then once that I cannot perform the PPGS completely and  the golf swing for me is harder then any other sport, slowly each day, week, month goes by I understand things more and more. If I told you that after being with you for more then a year and a half, I came to the conclusion last night hitting balls, is that my problem was in how I was holding the club the grip is essential in the PPGS swing, if the grip is not perfected properly on the club, I cannot hit the ball flush in the PPGS set up. If the grip is correct everything else falls into place. I think we need to show everyone soon how important the grip is.

We're laughing with you, not at you Steve. ;-) (Won't discuss my brilliant idea of getting rid of poison ivy on my hands by scratching the boils open and dunking my hands in a bucket of bleach.)

 Dale

Yes, you can, and of course it was me that found a way to do it.  Mine popped out at the back.  I have had several broken rids during my career.  None of them were as painful as this has been.

Thanks for the concern,
Dick

There are several lessons on the grip in the lesson videos and the manual. Sometimes golfers just need to go ahead and buy his detailed lessons if they really want to get it right. I've purchased every lesson video Surge has produced and so rarely have a question on any of the fundamentals. Practicing them correctly is another story.
Surges daily videos are meant to compliment his paid versions NOT give us every detail of all swing and play aspects. Time for some to buy.

Mee too, we had an early spring and walked the first 18, it hurt even to sit on a toilet after, muscles I havn't used since last fall.

I really don't follow all of your logic here. Don has been very clear about the grip. Whether your swing theory uses the rotation of the body to drag the arms, or the fast motion of the arms in front of the body to power the swing is not relevant to a good grip, so saying he "learned his grip from a rotational mentor" is silly. Don studied the way great players grip the club. He tried various ways of gripping the club, and he found the logical way to grip the club based on the physiology of the human body. Palms perpendicular to the body, aiming line, and ground. Grip of the club held in the crimp of the fingers, with pressure focused on the last three fingers of the left hand (for right-handed players) and the middle and ring finger of the right hand (or last three of the right hand if you use a ten-finger grip). In the Master Setup videos that are part of the basic lesson package, he shows numerous closeup shots of these steps of the grip, and he shows them in the Foundations Manual. He even has the photos in this old written Daily Lesson from a couple years ago: http://www.swingsurgeon.com/Ho...

 Kim

The chiropractor had to close the door to the adjustment room when he did mine this last time.  Apparently my screams during his first 4 or 5 attempts to reset it were scaring the other patients.

Thanks for the thoughts,
Dick

downswing.....
my word, not Don's

I have to agree with you on this grip thing. There are things to take in consideration.I have always had my left hand grip as neutral left thumb at 12 or on top of the club and the right hand a little stronger the v at the right ear. If I deviate from that and try to use the Surge grip I hook the heck out of the ball. All the lesson I have ever took no one has ever asked me to change it because my misses are left. I have really thick hands and for me to have the V of the right hand pointing at my right shoulder would terrible plus the palms would not be parallel to the ground .