PPGS Is The Alternative Energy Swing!

Okay, a bit off topic but have a question for fellow Surgites. Has anybody out there got the Krank Rage Driver (or even heard of it) and if so how you liking it?

http://krankgolf.com/krank-pro...

I'm thinking of buying a semi used one from e-bay and rebuilding it (if needed) to my own specs. As I'm home taking a few days off from work and golf I have way too much time on my hands and came accross this driver by accident but the reviews are impressive.
I would accually perfer just buying the head as a seperate component and building it to my specs.

 I'll add one more thought to what the two Roberts said. I'm very prone to not finishing my swing. It always turns out to be that I'm not releasing my right side and letting my hips turn towards the target and the right knee turning to the left knee. In my case it probably is somewhat tied to lack of flexibiliy, since I can't fully rotate the right knee to the left knee any time.

Thats great that not all Bobs think alike. I have never thought of you as a Bob, Robert.
 It is always surprizing how many students are willing to blame their teacher for their failure. I have just realised what  :) is, so I'm still learning

Too bad it has'nt helped you Bob. Guess you'll be moving on since this isn't helping you. Glad we have amazed and amused you. As for most of us, we have benifitted  beyond words and videos thanks to Don's excellent teaching skills. Now go see your pro and have a nice golfing life.

A head is a head is a head.  Most of the write up on their sight is nothing extraordinary or different from the technology of most drivers.  I get amused when a company touts that their driver is longer and straighter.  Seems like all you have to do is swing it to get tremendous results.  Truth is, drivers today pretty much have the same capabilities.  You can't reinvent the wheel.  Krank has been popular in the past with long drive guys but kind of dropped off in recent past as the faces had a tendency to cave in.  Don't think you'd have that problem though.  You know what Surge and I both think about large heads.  No benefit and can be more detrimental in that they are harder to get back to square.  That all being said, if you have a steal on one, it's as good as anything else to test your club building skills on.  I'd also be willing to sell you one of the DOC smaller driver heads at a great price if you want to build what Surge, I, my customers, and now even some tour pros are playing.

 I sure hope the education system doesn't learn about this. You can't learn from video or books. What a stupid statement to actually make. It is evident that you haven't been able to learn very much from video's or books. Too bad, or I guess lucky, all the self educated people in the world were too smart to think like you do. I could name a few of the best know, but that would require you to read and learn something.

PMG and Read a book or two.

Love the "Golf Bag BooK"

If only we all had PPGS instructors at our local courses we could go to for those lessons. The problem is that many of the people who come here do so because lessons from their local pros didn't help their swings and killed their backs.
To get everything possible out of this site, a person has to be willing to also video tape their own swing and look at it honestly. And we have access to online video lessons which can be enormously helpful.

Hey Lynn,
I was hoping to hear from you and not surprised at your observations:0 Thanks. I will contact you by e-mail to inquire about the smaller head.

 Is this the one,
https://picasaweb.google.com/C...

I also will be ordering a copy.

 He probably doesn't realize we have access to all his comments and can see he's been whining for 2yrs now. Talk about a dog with a bone. For some reason he just can't let go, wonder why.

Additionally, if you buy the manual and or the 'PPGS Swing book' and the downloadable introductory online teaching videos you ill get all the basics for every aspect of this swing. I highly recommend Don's lessons found by clicking on 'Surges shop' above.

 Let me know how it goes Robert, I might be interested in doing the same.

 I hear the first one to order get's another one for free. I just ordered mine. Did I win?

60 is the new 40

For Tom Jans (or whom ever may know)

Just noticed the new PPGS Swing Book now available. It is shorter and more compact and sturdy to fit in our golf bags (compared to the manual).. Nice addition. Is it a more concise abversion of the manual? Or considerably different? Looks like a must that I will be ordering in any case.

 So true about the wheel not being reinvented. Callaway is suffering from a bad business model of introducing new models every 8 months or so and not having enough performance return to justify the price.

All but one of my drivers is 400cc or less and the smallest is a Sonartec titanium that looks like a deep faced fairway wood.

Wow! Thanks for that inspiring update Tom. Very cool to see the world wide movement of the PPGS. I know that has been Don's vision for many years and it is really cool to see it is coming to fruition.

I don't recall reading any claim of 20-30 yard increases. Hmmm. Can you flag them?
 But I have read of struggles and good trends and improved results.  It's fun and it's work.   My ridiculous slice has been mitigated. Today at the range if was pretty much straight, except for those portions where I was working the ball. I'm not longer, but I'm in play most of the time.  I would take that deal.FYI, Bob, my PGA instructor gets the essence of the PPGS. A number of PPGS elements have been nicely adapted into my swing. I stand by my previous comments that it's about results. AccordingIy, I would not anticipate an huge exodus to PPGS at the professional level.  BUT for many of us, this swing (or elements thereof) , are really worth taking a look at and trying out.  It is helpful to have honest and knowledgeable feedback outside  of yourself.The only thing I'm serious about is having fun while enjoying and improving my game.

I was looking at that, also. It looks like a compilation of photos from that series several folks linked to a while back from that online gallery, with the addition of some explanatory text and clarifying lines.

You are an excellent model of success with the PPGS R2!
Love your saying about the shallow stream:)

That was what I was thinking of, but Tom corrected my misapprehensions about what the new book is. We'll see for ourselves soon enough, I guess. :)

Tom:  Thanks for the heads-up about the new manual.  I also ordered a copy - it will be a nice addition to all the other great learning tools that are available.  r2 

Additionally, Surge has over a dozen qualified teaching pros who would be happy to assist anyone learn the swing in person with a pro.
Surge also has teaching/playing events around the world and is expanding all the mentioned avenues every year.

Three years ago, I purchased 10 lessons which I last accessed in the early spring of this year to refresh myself.  Having a few problems, I went back to review them again, and they will not come up, but an ad for more is in their place.  What gives?

Your explanation was very helpful. Is there a technique to help make a full follow thru?
I find my swing fiinishing with the club about 1/4 away for a full finish. Is it flexibility,age, poor setup etc.
Thanks, I enjoy the tips and find the swing more useful as I age.
JIm Waldrep 

Very well said, Steve!  The thing I REALLY like about this swing is the simple fact that it can be reproduced and repaired, once you understand the basic mechanics.  I'm playing better golf than I ever played before, enjoying it so much more,  and simply enjoying the view from the middle of the fairway instead of the trees or the bunkers!  r2

Boy, nothing gets past you guys! The Swing Book is a compilation of the first and last chapters of the full Foundations Manual. The actual step-by-step text and accompanying illustrated photos give you the boiled down info you need to refresh your memory when you are having a swing problem, all in a format small enough and sturdy enough to live in your golf bag.

I agree with you Robert that this should be a "must have" for every person committed to mastering this swing.

I am working on an email that will go out in a few hours announcing the availability of this swing book.

Tom J.

If you have your original purchase information, contact customer service through the link at the top of the page. Which "10 lessons" did you purchase, though? The only thing I can think of that was listed as 10 anything is the 10 free golf swing myth videos.

I'm also assuming by videos you are talking about the dailies.  These are really meant to "teach" the swing but deal with different facets or questions regarding segments of the swing.  I'm guessing that you don't have either the videos or manual that actually "teach" the swing part by part.  Even then it still isn't a guarantee that you'll "get" it but it sure is more in-depth than the dailies.  Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water here!

Don, I boght your lesson series a while ago. My computer crashed and I thought I had saved the information to my new computer. I tried to access this the other day just to refresh my memory and to check my basic concepts. I was unable to access the lessons. I never ever received any book on the lessons. Is there any way to retrieve these. I have enjoyed getting the dailly tips and they are helpful. I had surgery on my shoulder and was unable to play for two years. Northern weather did not help and I am just getting started once more.

Bob:  Sorry but I completely disagree with you since you obviously have never put any measurable time or effort into learning the PPGS.  When I started this swing 3 years ago, my handicap was 26.  Today it is 9.  Over the years I took lessons from a "pro" and all I got was more confused and injury-prone.   I have never gained any noticable distance with this swing but my accuracy and ball-striking consistency has improved 100%.  When I screw up a shot, I know why and can fix it by simply going back to the basics.   I have learned more about golf from this site in three years than in the past 50 years combined!!!   One more thing - your statement that "some people simply do not have the ability to swing a club"  is laughable, and just plain wrong.  I've been working with the special olympics golf program the past two years, and have never, ever seen a single person that could not be taught how to swing a club or play the game - really!!!   As I always say, the shallower the stream, the louder the babble....r2

Bob,

Because learning this swing from a video may not work for you, that doesn't mean it doesn't work for others who are serious about this game. I have thousands of testimonials on file that substantiate the power of this form of "knowledge transfer".

Does Don expect or advocate that all you need is the videos? Absolutely not! There is no substitute for time spent practicing the techniques he teaches via video. Others have pointed out the fact that it is useless to go to a rotational instructor for obvious reasons. That is one we reason we are embarking on an ambitious golf school "roadshow" that will bring certified PPGS Instructors to cities where we have good densities of people who want to learn this swing. We pick a location, secure a course for 3-4 consecutive days, and then promote a great one-day golf school format to people who live within a 2-3 hour drive.  [Note: If you want to be notified when we come to a city near you, you MUST have your ZIP code in your user profile on the website and be signed up to receive our emails. Otherwise, you will be "invisible" to us!]

We've already finished seven cities in the Southeast and Midwest and  will be in these places in the next 8 weeks:

* York, PA (four days of classes, 100% booked)
* Syracuse, NY
* Denver, CO
* Great River, NY (Long Island)
* Charlotte, NC
* Davison, MI (just north of Detroit)
* Atlanta, GA
* Ontario, CN

plus schools in England, Scotland, Ireland, Holland and Spain. And that only takes us up to the end of September, early October. Our plan is to keep going to where you folks live pretty much indefinitely.

It's getting so that Don, Dave Seeman, Greg MacDonell, Mike Bartholomew,
Derek Gall, Malcom Rawle and Leo van Bennekom are planning new schools
faster than I can build the web pages needed to support them!

We now have a separate website for The Don Trahan Academy of Golf where all of the school information will be posted. You may want to bookmark the site: www.dontrahanacademyofgolf.com

The Syracuse, Great River, Edinburgh and Dublin schools are posted; Charlotte and Davison, MI will be posted in the next 24 hours and Ontario and  Denver shortly thereafter. Atlanta, Holland and Spain are still in planning stages but should be up next week.

Tom Jans

You can lead a horse [or in this case a mule] to water but you cant make them drink. I think Bobs biggest problem is Bob

Contact customer service (tab at the top of the screen) with as much information as you can give them about your original purpose and they should be able to help you.

 Well stated Roy, I totally agree.

PMG-PPGS

Thanks Tom,
Of course I will order it today.
No I don't miss much. Lol! Surge should do a daily to promote this.
I think this will really go over well and will be great as a refresher on the range and golf course.
Thanks again!

Cool, quite a few of the Surge Nation spoke up and surely dozens more just grinned:) Oh and BTW, not all Bobs think alike unfortunately.

I'd say the first thing to practice is the towel drill. Basically, set up like normal, but with a golf towel or small bath towel. Swing it part way back, then try to toss it over your forward shoulder so it lands down your back with you facing your imaginary target.

:)!