Happy St. Patrick's Day to everyone in the Surge Nation! Fittingly, I've got a question today that comes all the way from Northern Ireland, which has become the home country of the world's number one ranked golfer, Rory McIlroy. Northern Ireland has had great success in major championships the last couple of years so instead of the "luck" of the irish, it must be the skill!
Ronnie wanted to see me hit some drivers and explain how to do so while still swinging vertically. I addressed this issue a few days ago when discussing ball position, but I really want to stress that even though the driver is a longer club, it still must be swung vertically. It's easier to swing the irons vertically because they are shorter and have a steeper shaft angle at address. Since we stand further away from the ball using the longer clubs, swinging vertically takes more effort and muscle tone.
You should have the same swing thoughts for all the clubs, so you've got to make a conscious effort to keep it vertical with the driver too!
The Surge!
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RM:ÃÂ I went to the range
RM:ÃÂ I went to the range where IÃÂ practice during a "slow" time (got permission to go out on the range as long as no one else was there)ÃÂ and set up reflective markers (white 1'x2' paper on cardboard and wooden stakes) at 10 yard intervals.ÃÂ I only needed 5 markers (covers 50 yards), and just moved them depending on the club I was measuring.ÃÂ Then I hit 10 balls at the target area and measured each shot.ÃÂ I repeated this for each club and after just two sessions, I had a very good idea of the distance each club carried with a full swing under "normal", no-wind conditions.ÃÂ ÃÂ Quite simple to do, fun exercise, and it gave me a very, very accurate measurement of club distance and yardage gaps.ÃÂ Hopes this helps a little.ÃÂ Good luck and hit 'em straight!ÃÂ R2ÃÂ
ÃÂ Lynn, Love it ; - )
ÃÂ Lynn, Love it ; - )
Played today 38 - 38 , 33
Played today 38 - 38 , 33 putts , 6 gr.'s in reg front and 3 gr.'s back. 3 fairways hit all day. can't hit a driver to save myself.ÃÂ
I guess its back the range this week to try to sort things out with the driver.
Just need to see it feel it and swing it.
ÃÂ Neil, I take my normal
ÃÂ Neil, I take my normal Surge neutral grip, but instead of the left forefinger and right little pinkie being interlocked or the little pinkie resting in the gap between the forefinger and the 2nd finger of the left hand, my left forefinger covers the little pinkie of the lower hand. In my case as a right handed player, my right hand.
Which as you say the reverse of a standard overlap. Will keep you posted after I have given it a good trial. That may not be until next week, due to family commitments : - ( boohoo~!
Watching you swing dosen't
Watching you swing dosen't help.ÃÂ It is to fast.ÃÂ Demonstrate the full swing in slow motion.
Phil,
Phil,
Have you seen this video on lag yet. Hope it helps.
http://www.swingsurgeon.com/Da...
That would be a good idea if
That would be a good idea if you think it's cracked. It would be bad to waste a lot of time trying to fix your swing, only to find out it was the club.
Do you have another driver laying around to try? Even if it wasn't exactly right it should give you some idea if it's you or the club.
I'm not sure I'm following
I'm not sure I'm following your first comment correctly, but Surge clearly says that he's lifting the club from the moment he starts it moving. The important point is that the lift is happening from the shoulder sockets, not by cocking the wrists.
ÃÂ Richard,
ÃÂ Richard,
MEASURING CLUB LENGTH PROCEDURE
http://www.angelfire.com/pa/TW...
MEASURING WRIST
TO FLOOR PROCEDURE
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Thanks Roy. Sounds like a
Thanks Roy. Sounds like a possibility though finding the same conditions and cooperative range slim here in LV. Maybe I can do something simular on a empty school baseball field. Just need out to about 210 yards.
Thanks for your imput and suggestions.
I had one hole today par 3 Ã
I had one hole today par 3 ÃÂ 98 yards they have the Tee's way up off the tee box they redid it last year and over seeded it this year trying to get the grass thick on it. Anyway I thought I pulled my gw and choked down a couple of inches and hit full it was dead on the pin until it flew over the pin and landed 20 yards over the green I thought what the heck looked at the bottom of the club I grab the pw luckily I got up and down for par. Should have just hit a hard sw and been done with it.ÃÂ
Hi, I enjoy your sessions.
Hi, I enjoy your sessions. However, is it possible for you to always show a "slow Speed" ÃÂ version of your demonstration swings, sideways and straight on? Thanks
Bruce Venable
ÃÂ Steve, thanks for that
ÃÂ Steve, thanks for that mate. I used it when my finger was 'butchered' and found it OK. I seem to remember the ball flight on the range in China was lower than I was used to.That was before I really got into the PPGS swing properly.
As I said to NeilofOz above, I will let you know how it goes as soon as I have given it an honest try and checked the results.
My mantra is a little like yours, if it works use it. If not don't. Have a great week. DH
Hi Surge, Happy St Patrick's
Hi Surge, Happy St Patrick's Day to you. It was the quietest one I have ever experienced ever. Slept well and awoke to sunshine and txt msg from my in bound daughter, from Seoul, Korea. To start the day off perfectly, a lesson to confirm the swing I used 90% of the time off the tee yesterday [getting better]. Had decided to dig out the r7 again before seeing today's video and reset it to lower neutral. Yesterday the drives with a couple of exceptions were straight andÃÂ good distances.
After seeing the video this morning, I will be tweaking my swing a tiny,tiny smidgeon, before todays outing. Warming up on the rear deck golf mat, and the foot massage machine prior to leaving for the course.
My wife commented yesterday that I had a very consistant day. Made some great shots and had three chips, just 'lip out', but had three which went in!!! They were not easy ones either.
To those still enjoying the atmosphere of St Paddy's Day, remember, 'All things in moderation' heh heh heh! A clear headed DH survivor of a quiet St Paddy's Day ; o )
PMGASÃÂ
LOL,Steve.ÃÂ Wish I had a
LOL,Steve.ÃÂ Wish I had a nickle for every time I've done that.
Completely aside from the
Completely aside from the topic of this video, I saw a comment in today's Golf World that I'm betting Doc is really laughing at. From a study released at the World Scientific Congress of Golf in Phoenix, it appears that pros are actually spinning the ball MORE with the new, "less aggressive" grooves than they were with the ones that were recently banned. Clearly, it ain't the grooves creating the spin. ;-)
Played today 38 - 37. ÃÂ Had
Played today 38 - 37. ÃÂ Had 27 putts 15 - 12. Need to get greens in reg up just missing the iron shots only had 4 greens in reg. I guess I need to get to the course earlier tomorrow and hit a bucket of balls before playing.ÃÂ
Why don't you pound this into
Why don't you pound this into DJ's head? He doesn't need to hit the ball 330 yards - what is wrong with 300 if it improves his chances of landing his next shot on the green? He needs to hit more fairways in regulation so he can improve his greens in regulation and his chances to score low. There is no reason to hit 330 yard drives just because he can. Please work on this with DJ, many of us want to see him win more.
Robert - I have been useing a
Robert - I have been useing a laser since they became legal. There is no way to get an accurate read on the ragge because you are too low to the ground and will be picking up intermediate mounds, etc. If ther are target flag poles you can measure to them and get an idea of how far you are hitting the ball. That has been my experience.
Dick Higgins
ÃÂ Rpbert, Loved it,
ÃÂ Rpbert, Loved it, hahahaha.
Only had a swing on the deck in the end, due to circumstances beyond my control. Glad in a way. I took out the LW, Driver and the weighted grip trainer. That was a good move on my part. I used it on the neutrally fitted grip with one hand.The left or leading hand. Swung it up to the top of the BUS and without pausing added the right or rear hand to the grip and completed the FUS to the T finish and recoil. Magic! It was easy and effortless. Stretching the old tendons, ligaments and muscles in the sun. The whole procedure ensured that I didn't swing too fast. Then I swung with the clubs. A much better feel on the BUS light club right through to the recoil.
Maybe some others could cautiously try this. It ensured that the grip was firm as well.
Will watch the final round of the Donnelley in Phoenix tomorrow morning, Monday our time. Have a great rest of the day and PMGAS. DH
DJ's total driving stats for
DJ's total driving stats for 2012 current have him ranked at 30th. ÃÂ Hummmmmmmmmm, that's really not all that shabby. ÃÂ His greens in regulation is 61.4%. ÃÂ Which among us wouldn't like to hit 6 out of 10 greens. ÃÂ His scoring average is just slightly over 71. ÃÂ Scrambling is down.
ÃÂ It took me a long time to
ÃÂ It took me a long time to get used to anything but a ten finger grip.
Funny thing is now that I've been using an interlocking grip for quite a while, any grip, except a ten finger grip, feels perfectly OK, including overlapping and reverse overlapping.
That's good to know. LOL
That way whichever finger I have smashed lately can be protected and I can still play.
Surge, HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S
Surge, HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY!
ÃÂ Gino,
ÃÂ Gino,
I realize that slo-mo and even still sequenced pic's can offer a better insight into the swing process. Even though as DH below say's, you sound rather demanding in your request. Here are links to both.
Slo-mo
http://www.swingsurgeon.com/Da...
Sequenced still's
https://picasaweb.google.com/C...
Ask (nicely) and thou shalt receive.
Good luck to you.
I'm voting with Steve. Get
I'm voting with Steve. Get that driver checked out and don't even think about "working on" your driver swing until you have one in your hands that is proper. If the sound of the impact has changed, that's a good sign that something is wrong with the club.
ÃÂ That's pretty darned good
ÃÂ That's pretty darned good Mike!!!
Sounds like you are getting it down.
I was just so so again today. Hit some great shots and some that I would like to have a Mulligan on. Shot +3 on the front and +1 on the back. Started to "find it" on the 3rd nine in what we call the "Shamble" where we use the best tee shot and then play our own ball but our team score still wasn't good enough to win. My son and I weren't on the same team and his team won so at least the money stayed in the family. ;-) If he ever starts putting a little better this year he will be pretty much unbeatable (by anybody around here). He shot a 66 at Brown Acres Thursday and a 67 today and didn't putt well at all. Missed 4 eagle putts, one straight in from 4 feet. Ouch!.
Pins were the hardest I have ever seen today. Ron said he didn't know they were going to be quite that impossible and he was going to change them tomorrow (a little late, ha ha).
I'm trying to work out a swing that is functional but doesn't hurt my shoulder. Over all not too bad so far.
surge could you help me out
surge could you help me out please what is the best way to get out of a bunker .cos my bunker player is absolutly useless
ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ stan from liverpool uk
Ha ha! At least you had close
Ha ha! At least you had close to the right club.
A few weeks ago I thought I had a six iron and hit it perfectly, but it sure looked high. When it fell about 40 yards short I still didn't know what in the heck was going on...Until I put the club back in the bag and saw that the 6 iron was in it's slot. ;-)
Had the 9 in my hand.
Heres Dj's swing is ÃÂ in
Heres Dj's swing is ÃÂ in slow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?f...
RM:ÃÂ Couldn't reply to you
RM:ÃÂ Couldn't reply to you earlier about your question concerning a laser rangefinder (no "replies" left).ÃÂ I've had several but sold them all (just didn't like their features, small size or clairity).ÃÂ I now use an older Bushnell unit I picked up at the local pawn shop. ÃÂ It was designed for hunters, andÃÂ ranges to 400 yards (600 on highly reflective targets).ÃÂ It has several "modes" andÃÂ ÃÂ is super-accurate, but is quite bulky (like a full size pair of binoculars)ÃÂ so I only take it to the range.ÃÂ It hasÃÂ great sensitivity and works well for determiningÃÂ clubÃÂ yardage gaps.ÃÂ ÃÂ I carry a Garmin Approach G-5 during my practice rounds - it is a super GPS and has something like 25,000 courses pre-loaded and free lifetime map updates.ÃÂ ÃÂ Got it as a "refurbished" unit on e-bay and love it!ÃÂ Anyway, just something to help you out.ÃÂ Hit 'em straight!ÃÂ R2
WhatÃÂ I ÃÂ saw and heard
WhatÃÂ I ÃÂ saw and heard today may help me.ÃÂ I think you said , with irons they are held more upright and stand closer ; on the take away ,take club backÃÂ with a neutral grip, onÃÂ TARGETÃÂ ÃÂ Line AND from thereÃÂ begin lifting the club to Parralel; then Lift to vertical. That feels better, even with the driver. ÃÂ Is this correct?
ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ Where is the ball placed in the stance for the driver as opposed to irons?
I used to do that a lot
I used to do that a lot myself. Back then I hadn't played enough golf to get the feeling something was wrong standing over the ball with the wrong club but the funny thing was that I would take a few practice swings and get a feel for how I needed to swing THAT PARTICULAR club for THAT PARTICULAR shot, and it usually worked OK.
I was just as likely to use a 5 iron for a 120 yard shot as to use a 5 iron for a 190 yard shot, just whatever I was in the mood for. It drove the guys I played with crazy when they would make the mistake of asking me what I hit, until they all figured out they couldn't go by what club I hit. I could play just about the same with a driver and any other club and a putter as with the whole bag full of clubs.
For the last couple of years I had gotten away from that type of play and taken pretty much the same swing with all clubs and having the "correct" club is much more important, so I would almost always feel the difference in clubs at address and realize I had the wrong club.
Funny thing is that on most days I was a better player when I went totally by feel and it made no difference which club I used. Drawback was that on days when I had no skill I was terrible. I was just as likely to shoot a 100 as a 70. Now it seems I have pretty much settled in to shooting in the low to mid 70's, seldom better and seldom worse.
Thanks Roy. I'm looking at a
Thanks Roy. I'm looking at a bunch right now including many by Callaway. Finding one that is particularly useful for determining how far I hit each club is #1 priority.
Thanks for the info.
PMG
Wow!! Great Mike:) Do you
Wow!! Great Mike:) Do you think your swing lessone have helped to shape yourvearly reason success? 27 putts?! That's pro-like. Super! My goal is to get it down to around a 30 average this season. 75 is a darn good score from where I'm sitting Mike. good to hear things are headed your way.
T....Thanks for reminder!
T....Thanks for reminder!
I know why when I hook or pull its my upper body rotating not shifting.
Phillip
Have you purchased and viewed
Have you purchased and viewed the various short game instructional videos? The Kenny Knox series is terrific, and Surge's own Situational Shots Around The Green is great.
Isn't that amazing how even
Isn't that amazing how even after really a very good round we will remember the shots we left out there. My theory is not just that as golfers we are perfectionists and always want improvement but also because after a good round we have fewer crappy shots to reflect on amungst the many good ones so it's easier to pick out the times we could have shaved even more strokes off a round. the other reason is because when we are playing and putting well we feel like we can make 'em all and are surprised by the misses!
Anyhow, glad to hear things are turning in the right direction for you.
ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ This should serve as a great recommendation for the ONLINE LESSON program.
Surge, and other Surgites: Am
Surge, and other Surgites: Am I committing heresy? I was playing with the grip trainer during the Adv breaks on the LPGA RR Donnelly from Phoenix, and during the weather breaks. I did something that I used in China, when I cut my lead or left forefinger to the bone with a Chinese cleaver. I took my neutral grip on the club with a REVERSE overlapping grip. I found that the hands moved much better as a single unit and the reverse forefinger [I think], stopped the right hand from 'overpowering' the lead arm.
I noted it was On-On-On up to the T finish and recoil. It will be interesting to see how I strike the ball on our next trip to the course.
Are there any pitfalls to this radical grip? Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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