Where To Look When Putting

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 23:09 -- Don Trahan

A question was sent in to the blog from Ken (from Middletown) asking what I thought about looking at the hole while putting instead of at the ball. Well, I know of a few pros who have tried this and many other amateurs and quite honestly, it all depends on what feels most comfortable to you and what ultimately gives you the best results.

Ken based this question on the fact that there are other sports where looking at the target can provide accurate results, such as bowling. Some bowlers use the arrows in the front part of the lane for their target, while others look further down the lane, or even directly at the pins. So looking at the hole while putting might be the way to go for some of you, but you've got to get out there and practice it.

I've discussed my quirky vision before and how I consciously make an effort to "calm" my eyes when stroking a putt. I found out about a good way to do this, using a colored dot on the top of the ball. This not only keeps my head down, but it has a great calming effect on my eyes, which overall allows me to hit much more confident putts. So, again, you've got to try these things on the practice greens and find out what works best for you. Perhaps looking at the hole can turn you into a better putter!

Keep it vertical,

The Surge!

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Robert F's picture

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It would only be a penalty stroke if you considered the goose your caddie.

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

 I don't mind thinking about the birdies and eagles but I have hit enough ducks off of the tee that I don't care for them very much.

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Submitted by Dmwheat4 (not verified) on

Thanks Surge!!    I always look at the ball, seems that is the way I learned, so, works pretty good for me.

I have been out playing the last two weeks, hitting some really good shots and some not so good.   Yesterday, hit around, hit over the water twice really well, the next time, had other people watching and in the water it went!!!   I hit great on the practice range, hit really good when not busy, but, when more people around, darn!!!    Golf is really a mind game also!!!   Now all I have to do, is my mind only!!

Thanks for all of your help,
marilyn

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FABULOUS, Dick! Just remember that for your PAT rounds, every walk to the ball is a walk to the electric chair. ;-) Okay, maybe not.

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Submitted by T Medley (not verified) on

In line with that thought. I wonder if each new adjustment will have shorter life spans due to eventual metal fatigue. It seems reasonable to me that each bend or metal working will reduce the original strength of the hosel.

Doc, would probably have some ideas as to the actual effect on the metals integrity with continual bending's.

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 Robert

Thanks pal.

Hope you have a great weekend and get some relaxing golf in.

Dick

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 Bob

Thanks pal.  I always have plenty of cigars with me.  I routinely play 36 holes in a day, and often do 54.  So, that part won't be a problem.

I just have to relax and not get caught up in how serious it is.  I do best when I am paying attention to my game, but still goofing around a bit and not getting overly serious.  That just causes me to over think the game.

The day of the PAT will start with a continental breakfast, a little time at the range, round one, lunch, a little warm up time, then right into round two.  Should be fun, no matter the out come.

They say about 1 in 5 pass the PAT.  So,  I think I will just start the day by knee capping 4 of the other guys.  That should at least give me a little advantage.

Just the red neck coming out,
Dick

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

If they changed that much in 9 months I guess it's a good thing you bought the machine. ;-)

At that rate it would be a waste of time for me to get mine checked unless I intended to keep going back every few months.

Would be interesting to know how much they change over time, and how much time.

I'm not much of a divot taker but I also don't back off of a swing with the ball down in a depression where it is necessary to strike the ground to get at the ball, even off of hard pan. So my clubs have hit the hard ground many times at high speed.

Maybe if my clubs need to be adjusted they will fix themselves at some point. (Just joking).

I do wonder about a placebo effect just from thinking your lies are correct, even if they are not. You may be a small case study for that since you have been hitting the ball well with your "correct" clubs that turn out to not be correct, at least for some period of time.
Sort of like when I change my grips I usually shoot a few strokes better, even if the old grips were still fine. Part placebo and part better grip....

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Steve

What direction are your mishits. Just curios I herd you once say something about needing 4 * upright.

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Have you checked if your Firefox version is up to date? There may be an updated certificate that you don't have.

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Hi Marilyn.
I strongly recommend you read the book "Extraordinary Golf" by Fred Shoemaker which has been mentioned several times on this blog. Amazon has it at a very reasonable price. 
This book will completely change your attitude towards golf if you follow it´s teachings, and you will never more get the yips when people are watching you play.  You will find yourself unburdened by the past history of your game and the author will show you how to get more freedom and enjoyment on the course, leading to better performance.
I recommend it for all golfers of all levels of play.
Jack

PMG and enjoy every minute !

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Submitted by Robert Meade (not verified) on

Steve, I'm not much of a divot taker either. One of the fitters on line said it is good to get our clubs checked even soon after they are fit/purchased brand new because there unfortunately often off even when new and before thy are striking soil.
I understand your clubs are not easy to check and adjust because of the particular make up (material) or whatever. In any case, I don't think it would be a waste of time for you to do it because it may shock you what a difference it may make. Even if you only do it one time as you say you ae not muh of a divot taker so your benifits may klast longer than most.
As far as me hitting the ball well. thanks but I wonder......
I will keep everyone posted on what my results are down the road. I am not concerned about a placebo effect. tha's an interesting theory.
I think it will turn out to be an important fix for the possibility of gaining some consistency. We'll see.

Terry also bought the same tools recently so I'll be interested to se how he weighs in on his results.

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

I would think so Terry.
Assuming golf clubs are no different than all of the other metal I have worked with:
Metal bent from it's original cast position wants to return to it's original position more easily than metal can be bent from it's original cast position.
Softer metal is easier to bend than harder metal so therefore easier to bend back under pressure or stress.
Stands to reason to me that clubs adjusted to a greater deviation from the original cast would be more likely to need continuing adjustments than clubs adjusted with less deviation from the original cast.
Also stands to reason the clubs that are very easy to bend and adjust would also be more susceptible to additional (unwanted) bending during use.

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 Dragonhead

Glad you had a good round too pal.  It is hard to beat some nice relaxing country music when times are good, or even when they are bad.

Dick

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Submitted by Bill Condon (not verified) on

I like the dot idea.  I'm going to try that one.  As far at looking at the ball or the hole - I do both depending upon the distance.  If the hole is within my peripheral vision I look at the ball.  If it's a longer putt I look at the hole.  I definitely end up closer to the hole that way.

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Surge Nation:

   "It has the best of times (Monday and Friday) and the worst of times (Wednesday)"  on the course for me this week:
 
     Monday :  9/14 fairways, 186 yds avg drive (for me that is "smoking it")
                      4 pars, 9 bogies and 5 double bogies
                      7 one putrs vs 1 three putt for 30 putts used.  46 ft of "made putts"
                      score: 47 front nine, 44 back nine = 91 -- about my average lately
   
 Wednesday:9/14 fariways again - but 171 yds average (light breeze but  a gust          factor doubleing it at times )
                      2 pars, 10 bogies, 4 doble boiges, 1 triple bogie and one "other" (8 on a par four) (got in a bunker, took 4 to get out) OUCH!
                      8 one putts. 0 three putts for 28 putts used.  53 ft of 'made putts"
                      score: 50 front nine, 48 back nine = 98  DOUBLE OUCH!!!

  FRIDAY:      12/14 fairways, 173 yds average drive
                       5 pars,9 bogies, 2 doubles, 1 triple and 1 "other"  (a 10 on a par5 - I saved ALL of my bad shots for the day for that hole)
                       5 one putts vs 1 three putt = 32 putts used  52 ft of "made putts"
                       score:  53 front nine, 41 back nine = 94 (not as good as 91, but much better than 98!)

                        reason for the improved back nine: 4 pars and 5 bogies -- the wedges and chipping suddelny came to life -- also 2 GIR and 2 "G1" (GIR shot on the green for at least 25% of the green, before falling off the side or going ove the back)
                     Best "stretch" of holes -- pars on 4 of the last 5 holes today - missed a pars saving putt on #16 by about 2 inches! ( a slight pull on a 10 foot left ot right putt-- finished about 2 inches on the high side)

     Keep hitting them STRAIGHT and LONG

     Amos
 

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Submitted by T Medley (not verified) on

 It is often said, there is a fine line between genius and insanity. It is hard to rule on your points though, because you have not specified any points of contention yet. Shall we make it a double occupancy?

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

I would like to see a study on how long the average loft and lie bending lasts until they get pretty much out of whack.

P.S. My pulls have nothing to do with lofts or lies. That much I am sure of.
In fact my lies indicate I should be missing right.

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Submitted by Robert F (not verified) on

Wandering eyes can be a big problem for me, as well. I'm always having to remind myself to not look around during the swing.

In other golf fun of the day, I was out at the range and talking to the guy next to me and gave him a demonstration of your technique for changing the trajectory of the ball--in my case with a 52 degree wedge. I hit a normal shot, fairly high and soft, followed by a really high shot (had to go up as much as it went out) that plopped right by the 100 yard flag, and finished with a ball that never got more than 20 feet up and bounced right by the high shot (then kept on running). Great stuff learned from watching your Situational Shots videos. 

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 Bob
Great to see you on the blog.  Glad school is going well.  Are you getting your noggin filled with all kinds of good info?

Keep up the hard work pal, it will pay off in the end.
Dick

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Submitted by Jim Steffensf (not verified) on

Surge:
Re your advice on small dot on ball for putting:
Looking at the grip on your putter it appears that it is an oversized jumbo grip.  If so please comment on the pros & cons of an overzied putter grip and if it helps where can they be purchased?
Jim steffens Lynchburg, VA

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 Robert

Now, that right there is funny, and I don't care who you are.

I did not see a vest or bag on it when it rolled over.  So, I guess I got away with one there.

Ok guys, I am off to beat the snot out of the little white ball until I have to go to work.

Great day to all,
Dick

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DH:

  ALABAMA is my favorite country group.  "My Home is in Alabama" is my favorite -- closely followed by "Mountain Music", "Old Flame" "Dixieland Delight" and "18 Wheeler"

   YEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

   Amos

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 Got out for the first time this year and played  40 - 37  not going to complain did not have any expectations .
My driver is giving me fits though. Can not get any distance out of it. Late last season I noticed that on top of the driver were the hosel connects to the head looked like there was a crack so I sanded that spot down to bare metal could not see a crack in the metal and touched it up but it does not even sound the same on center hits kinda thuddy sound may need to get it checked by a professional.

Going to play tomorrow 60's hopefully I can play a little better and eliminate 3-4 bogies.   

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 No problem for me.
I've seen something like that in the past but there was always a tab asking if I wanted to continue to the page anyway.

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Jack,

I agree that 'Extraordinary Golf' is a great read. I am working through the book for the 2nd time this winter. A lot of wisdom in there to help us enjoy this great game.

He references the book " The Inner Game of Golf". Have you read this book as well? If so, would you recommend it.

Thanks, Dan

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The problem is hitting geese off the tee. They get mad and come after your balls.

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Jim, I would guess by appearances that Surge is usung one of the Super Stroke Putter grips. His might be the"slim". I am currently using the Super Stroke "Fatso". It's really a matter of personal preferance and would likely take some trial and error for you to determine which may be best for you. I have grown found of bigger grips over the last few years on both my putter(s) and the rest of my golf clubs. I have currently gone back to the Jumbo Max for my regular set of clubs. I find it helps me be less wristy and provides better cushion and less vibration on my hands. I have arthritus and have had trigger fingers and other hand stiffness and work related issues. The larger grips along with graphite shafts in all my clubs have helped reduce shock and vibration. Over all I just prefer larger grips. You may want to try smaller jumbo grips offered by many of the grip making companies. Do you have a large golf store like Golf Gallaxy near you? There you will be able to feel several different grip options.
Trying various grips has become easy for me because I change out my own grips at home without any glue/tape or solvent/chemicals. I use an air compressor. I can change out and use a vaiety of grips.
      As for the benifits of the larger and less tappered grips that Super Stroke offers, I believe they really help us have a pure pendulem stroke that helps limit hand and wrist involvement. I'd say give them a try. They are certainly not for everyone. Even as some like the belly putter and others are more traditional it's matter of what works for you.
http://www.golfworks.com/categ...
http://www.golfworks.com/image...
http://www.jumbomax.com/no_fla...
Here's another option that you may like;
http://www.2thumbgrip.com/

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 Steve

Thanks pal.  Was just thinking of you.  Sent you an email.  Let me know what you think of it.  Makes the blood boil.

Hope you have a great round.  Let me know how it goes.

You are one of the guys who has helped me get back into this game.

Dick

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Submitted by Lynn42 (not verified) on

Dick,

Those may be some of my Canadian geese.  Hope you didn't scare em back north.

Nothing worse than trying to putt through goose goo. ;0)

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Submitted by Gordon on

It could be that your clubs are ok and that they were not positioned correctly in the machine. It's not as simple as you might think to get the club correctly positioned. check that the lower groove lines are exactly parallel with the machine. It is very easy to make a small mistake and get a false reading.

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Darren...

Sorry to hear you are struggling.
When one starts talking to ones self,
that can be a sign it's time for some help.

You've made a wise choice.

The nice people at the home will take good care of you.

SG

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