Level Knees In Backswing

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 20:18 -- Don Trahan

I recently received a couple of really good questions from Dan Swantko, who has been a student of the Peak Performance Golf Swing for a little over a year now. Dan made the observation that the Up-The-Tree movement has the capability of destroying the right knee orientation established during setup, either through too much hip rotation or the up-down movement caused by the vertical lifting of the club and subsequent transition. He asked if I would provide some further explanation of what should be happening during this phase of the swing.

Well, Dan, I'm more than happy to elaborate on this point for you. While you focused on the right knee, I want to emphasize that both knees are critical to a successful Surge Swing. If either one of them loses what I call dynamic flex and locks up, it can cascade into a series of body movements that will destroy the effectiveness of your swing. Remember that one of the trademark "looks" of the Peak Performance Golf Swing is the outward flex of both knees. This allows our knees to act as levelers and stabilizers so that we can avoid things like End of Backswing Reverse Tilt (EBRT) that can move our head forward of the ball making it very difficult to hit the ball straight, or hips that over-rotate causing us to flatten our swing and take us deep into the Sacred Burial Ground. By keeping our knees flexed and slightly bowed, we will restrict hip turn during the backswing while allowing the right leg to release the energy it stores when we setup preloaded, heavy right. Check out today's video for all the details.

Keep it vertical

The Surge

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Lynn42's picture

Submitted by Lynn42 (not verified) on

Hey, Steve, if those pants will get me 10 more yards or help me drop a couple of strokes I'm in.  Who knows, the magic shaft didn't work, but "magic" pants?  Might be worth a shot. ;0)

T Medley's picture

Submitted by T Medley (not verified) on

With that outfit, you could qualify for the ladies, (I mean red) tee's.

Do you know what a real Scotsman wears under his kilt.

Lipstick.

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Submitted by Doc Griffin (not verified) on

Since it's Surge's site, I think it's a venue for whatever he chooses it to be a venue for.  I think it's great that he tries to help out an enterprising entrepreneur.

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

One day at the golf course there was a guy that had pink knickers and a yellow and pink flowered shirt on, with a white belt and shoes, and yellow and pink knee high socks. He also had a little yellow towel folded across his belt on the side.

My wife jokingly said I needed an outfit like that.
I told her you had to be a lot better golfer than I am to wear that outfit.;-)

T Medley's picture

Submitted by T Medley (not verified) on

Robert,

Thanks for your additional reminder, I completely forgot. My alarm is now set.

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Submitted by Sandy from Oz (not verified) on

Don - it is like having a private lesson every single day watching you on the "back porch"  and I am simply blown away by your enthusiasm and  generosity. It is obvious that you want to make the game of golf so much more rewarding and pleasurable to the golfing world  by giving us tangible and clear insights into the mechanics of the 3/4 limited turn backswing.   Thank you Thank you Thank you!!!
Sandy from Oz. 

Lynn42's picture

Submitted by Lynn42 (not verified) on

Steve,

I'm guessing that it wasn't Dick since he was wearing knickers instead of a kilt. ;0)

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Submitted by JeffinTampa (not verified) on

This is where my swing breaks down most often.  Next is cupping the wrist.  One of my problems with the knees is keeping them level and steady.  Here is how I correct it.  I would like to hear what you experts think.  To keep all steady I do not try to put outward  pressure on my knees.  It just doesn't seem to work for me.  It tends to hurt my knees after awhile and I tend to bend my ankles outward.  By accident, I discovered that if I squeeze my butt (Yes, my butt.  Let the butt jokes fly) and my hamstrings at the same time it does two things.  It keeps my knees very steady, and, surprisingly, automatically draws me into balance over my in-steps.  It really is hard to get off balance doing this.  Ok, here we go with a really dumb swing thought.  "Rock hard butt, rock steady stance."  Sorry.  I don't actually squeeze too hard.  Just enough to stabilize.  Uh, now the mental images are getting too much.  I guess you've got the picture... unfortunately.

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

Hey I'm not knocking the outfit. I watched him hit a few balls and he looked pretty good.

My daughter in law got my wife and I some really nice matching golf shirts. The only problem was that mine said "Number 1 Golfer" on it. My wife's said "Number 1 Golfer's Sidekick" on it.
I appreciated the gesture but I told my wife there is no way I would ever wear that shirt.
She asked me why (and honestly didn't know). I told her I wasn't anywhere nearly good enough to wear a shirt with that statement on it.
(I can see me stepping up to the first tee with that on and ripping a duck hook off into the lake).;-)

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

I bet those guys that wear a kilt don't hit the ball in the bushes and briars as much as I do.
Or else they are really tough.

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Submitted by Guest (not verified) on

Hi Don,
I have been doing the Surge swing for a couple of months now and doing quite well with it, but have not always been as consistent as I would like. My misses were pulls with the driver and chunks with the irons.  Something was missing.  Last week I discovered a better and more consistent way, for me, to trigger the bump to start  the forward upswing. As you say Don, the bump has to be a very small move of about an inch or two parallel to the target line .  I could not do this move consistently by thinking about the belt buckle or the left hip and knee. It was too easy to over bump and get ahead of the ball or spin out with the hips before impact, or not bump at all.  One of the old swing thoughts from my former rotational swing was quite effective for maintaining a steady head and good balance while giving the brain something to think about during the swing.  The technique is called" spot focus" and involves focusing your attention on the bottom arch of your forward foot. All we are trying to do in the bump phase of the forward  upswing is  to start the lower body weight shifting from the inside arch of the forward foot to the outside of the foot while keeping the chest facing the target line. I found that all I had to do to achieve a very consistent and repeatable bump was to trigger it by thinking about shifting weight to the little toe of my forward foot.  The whole forward upswing just seems to fall into place by starting with that simple small move. My only forward upswing thought after "spot focusing "on the little toe to trigger it , is "T-Finish". The pulls and the fats are now virtually gone and all shots are much crisper and straighter.
All the best,
Dave

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Submitted by NeilofOZ (not verified) on

Jeffin, it's not so funny, I actually lock my but also as a precursor to the BUS and 
include with it a slight right hip backward movement which I believe pre-sets my lower
half. This action keeps my knees in an outward position, from here I don't have to think
about any thing else in the BUS. I stumble on this about six months ago and from there my scores are heading in one direction only, down. This is one of peculiarities
of golf as every one is different and we all require some little ingenious action to make
it work.
     

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Submitted by Steve Smith on

I wonder how many people read Deb's comment and clicked on the video right quick to see the "stuff".

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Submitted by Dmwheat4 (not verified) on

Thanks Surge,   That is what I do sometime, move to much hips and sometimes it seems like im going up almost before I hit my shot!!    OH, so much to learn in golf, wish I would have learn it when I was younger, buy, at that time, was work and money!!

Thanks for all your help, as always see what tomorrow brings,

Marilyn

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Submitted by Westoz John (not verified) on

What a simple and very effective little tip.  Thanks Dave.  I don't have range practice facilities readily available so went out in the backyard (have around 40 metres available) and used the plastic practice balls.  Thinking of the little toe tightened up the FUS beautifully.

Regards

John Thompson

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Submitted by T Medley (not verified) on

I like a good Whiman too, especially the cute ones, even if they don't show their stuff.

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Submitted by Kevin McCarthy (not verified) on

I am glad I went back and checked posts.  Just as John Westoz says, that is a very effective way of feeling the bump.  I like your spot focus technique as it is very easy to think about, and just as easy to do.  Thank you, Kevin McCarthy

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Submitted by Robert Meade (not verified) on

Another reminder, hope as many as possible will join us on the webinar tommorow at 11am Pacific Coast time.(2pm Eastern standard), and whatever time that'll be fot the rest of the world. Hope everyone tunes in. Did you guys and girls send any questions for DJ in? Too if your in bed or at work, no excuses! Sneak out carefully and find a computer!!

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Submitted by NeilofOZ (not verified) on

Kman, BUS refers to the "BACK UP SWING" and FUS is "FORWARD UP SWING" Surge uses these two descriptions as they convey a vertical action of the club in both directions as against the flat/plane swing of conventional rotational swingers. These two actions combined with a limited shoulder turn
are the foundation of a body friendly, more simply but effective way of playing golf. 

 

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Submitted by T Medley (not verified) on

When your car quits working, you make a FUS cus you has ta ride da BUS.

Actually FUS is Forward Up Swing and BUS is Backward Up Swing. We focus on swinging up instead of down at the ball.
I hope that helps a little. Another thing which can help greatly is the search block on this page's right column. Just enter FUS or BUS or any other word or phrase, and you'll get a variety of articles and lessons on the topic.
 Here's a good one to start with in regards to FUS and BUS.
http://www.swingsurgeon.com/Da...

      Good luck.

PMG               means Play more golf.

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Submitted by Lynn42 (not verified) on

Steve,

I looked at the video again just to get the address.  In this economy I think it's great that Surge would give her business a boost.  Since my wife doesn't play and I don't wear pants to match the headcovers I guess that let's me out as a customer. ;0)

T Medley's picture

Submitted by T Medley (not verified) on

Doc

It just kinda slipped out.

Jackoz's picture

Submitted by Jackoz (not verified) on

Sugar & spice & all things nice
That's what girls are made of

If anyone wishes to keep that delusion or is a bit squeamish about fighting, DON'T click the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Girls will be whatever they wish to be

Jack